[opensuse-project] membership policy
Hello, I'm in the way of trying to makes more live the membership process. This mail should have been sent to the "membership_official" list only, but most of his members are probably also on -projet, and this number is not now large enough to have a normal functioning. normally, we should accept or decline a submission if it reach *4* votes in the good direction. Problem is some submissions are pretty old and I think very bad to have people waiting an answer. two kind of people do not give any problem: * ones having no contribution at all and not listing any or asking to make contributions in the future. I think these submission should be declined by the first member of the team that sees them, with a kind message (anyway all the submission results a e-mailed on the m_o list, so anybody knows) * some peoples have a large contribution (like people making the OSC-15 happen) and could be accepted may be with only two positive advices. Should be on this category people who's contribution is confirmed by one of the team, even if it's not too much visible on the net (I think for example Nicolas that held the openSUSE booth during a hole week at RMLL!!) for the people having some plus and some minus, the m_o list is there for discussion. What do you think? thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
I believe that it's important that the Membership approval process is more than just 'one persons opinion that the contributor is good' That said, I also feel that requiring 4 votes has proven to cause far too long approvals for a very long time I'd like to see the lowering of the threshold to + or -3 votes, which is a number the membership team can quite often reach without problem. On 19 July 2015 at 20:54, jdd <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
Hello,
I'm in the way of trying to makes more live the membership process. This mail should have been sent to the "membership_official" list only, but most of his members are probably also on -projet, and this number is not now large enough to have a normal functioning.
normally, we should accept or decline a submission if it reach *4* votes in the good direction.
Problem is some submissions are pretty old and I think very bad to have people waiting an answer.
two kind of people do not give any problem:
* ones having no contribution at all and not listing any or asking to make contributions in the future. I think these submission should be declined by the first member of the team that sees them, with a kind message (anyway all the submission results a e-mailed on the m_o list, so anybody knows)
* some peoples have a large contribution (like people making the OSC-15 happen) and could be accepted may be with only two positive advices. Should be on this category people who's contribution is confirmed by one of the team, even if it's not too much visible on the net (I think for example Nicolas that held the openSUSE booth during a hole week at RMLL!!)
for the people having some plus and some minus, the m_o list is there for discussion.
What do you think?
thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
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Le 19/07/2015 21:08, Richard Brown a écrit :
I believe that it's important that the Membership approval process is more than just 'one persons opinion that the contributor is good'
That said, I also feel that requiring 4 votes has proven to cause far too long approvals for a very long time
I'd like to see the lowering of the threshold to + or -3 votes, which is a number the membership team can quite often reach without problem.
I have no problem about that, but we are now only 6 :-( summer time is not a good moment for this purpose, but I wonder if we can wait several more month before purging this already several month old subscription list. For any people reading this, remember the membership official team is built on a *volunteer* basis, please if you want to help, ask to be a member of this team. the actual work is very small thanks ! jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/07/2015 22:35, jdd wrote:
For any people reading this, remember the membership official team is built on a *volunteer* basis, please if you want to help, ask to be a member of this team.
the actual work is very small
What do you need? URL on procedure, perhaps? -- Saludos/Cheers, Carlos E.R. (Minas-Morgul - W7) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On 19 July 2015 at 22:37, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 19/07/2015 22:35, jdd wrote:
For any people reading this, remember the membership official team is built on a *volunteer* basis, please if you want to help, ask to be a member of this team.
the actual work is very small
What do you need? URL on procedure, perhaps?
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Membership_officials Volunteers for the Membership Officials need to fufil two requirements 1. Must be a Member of the openSUSE Project https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members 2. Must be willing to login to the Membership request queue ( http://is.gd/newmembers ) regularly and give their opinion as to whether or not the applicant has made a "sustained and substantial" contribution to the Project -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Le 19/07/2015 22:52, Richard Brown a écrit :
Volunteers for the Membership Officials need to fufil two requirements (...)
yes, then, write to board@opensuse.org ?? or here? thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Le 19/07/2015 22:37, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
On 19/07/2015 22:35, jdd wrote:
For any people reading this, remember the membership official team is built on a *volunteer* basis, please if you want to help, ask to be a member of this team.
the actual work is very small
What do you need? URL on procedure, perhaps?
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Membership_officials I hope Richard will read this and ask you (the process of becoming a member of the team is not documented or I don't know where) thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On 19 July 2015 at 22:52, jdd <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Membership_officials
I hope Richard will read this and ask you (the process of becoming a member of the team is not documented or I don't know where)
To join the Membership Officials Team Step 1. Email board@opensuse.org with a link to your connect.opensuse.org Profile Step 2. The Board will confirm that you're a Member, and let you know whether or not you're request to join the Membership Officials is accepted Step 3. A connect.opensuse.org admin (which may include me) will give you the appropriate permission If anyone volunteers anywhere else, we won't ignore it, we just cant promise to always spot it ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Le 19/07/2015 22:55, Richard Brown a écrit :
To join the Membership Officials Team
(...) I modified the membership_official page accordingly, please review :-) https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Membership_officials jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-07-19 22:55, Richard Brown wrote:
On 19 July 2015 at 22:52, jdd <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Membership_officials
I hope Richard will read this and ask you (the process of becoming a member of the team is not documented or I don't know where)
To join the Membership Officials Team
Ok, will do. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlWurG4ACgkQja8UbcUWM1wowgD/ZYz4hdA3vgiedAk224wGKUgr JzjUcaE7SQqssMZG+RUA/R0dtT77QSFweNUTs4dp+oIkamOXvqxVxcUSjA2ZmNyV =7+NL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2015-07-21 a las 22:32 +0200, Carlos E. R. escribió:
On 2015-07-19 22:55, Richard Brown wrote:
On 19 July 2015 at 22:52, jdd <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Membership_officials
I hope Richard will read this and ask you (the process of becoming a member of the team is not documented or I don't know where)
To join the Membership Officials Team
Ok, will do.
Well, there has not been an answer in a month. I take administrative silence as a reject, thus I withdraw my offer of contribution in this area. Thanks anyway. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlXdEt8ACgkQja8UbcUWM1xyoAD/aH4A1cNCIJZO96FQG2MaG+jv OAjKL9k6vJzrK5y2h1AA/1u0aicIi9tsGk/1FWfKkEPd/rgkUROt+JzY9ChoAGed =G1rh -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Le 26/08/2015 03:14, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
Well, there has not been an answer in a month. I take administrative silence as a reject, thus I withdraw my offer of contribution in this area.
during holidays summer, there are often little answers... do again in September :-) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-08-26 07:53, jdd wrote:
Le 26/08/2015 03:14, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
Well, there has not been an answer in a month. I take administrative silence as a reject, thus I withdraw my offer of contribution in this area.
during holidays summer, there are often little answers... do again in September :-)
No, I will not. Richard has now said they do not want me, which is what I wanted him to say... - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlXdmoIACgkQja8UbcUWM1wCZAD+Le5NGtOfT1CUcSqzicgLc3yz dTcvoUwltNhYhyf7eUsA/3KcYOgi2ITCeAToGR3DDrULaRN5LHQ5iX5q6U9TFMpB =jQh/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
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