2011/11/24 Sankar P
Out-of-the-box (probably bikesheddy) suggestion. Why should we build chrome by ourselves at all ? We do not have any patches made from SUSE for chromium which will be in upstream only in future releases (say like the Kernel). We can just get the latest Chrome for openSUSE from www.google.com/chrome
Why should you distribute Chrome from Google when it was broken during the whole 11.4 cycle from an "out of the box" perspective? Chromium provided by Raymond wasn't. A fun example of this was the missing libpng12 requires, yes the very same lib someone tried to push out of Factory the other day.
Chrome project already gives 32-bit and 64-bit dev and beta builds for openSUSE (and fedora). We can just work with those chrome packagers instead of building it ourselves. I see no benefit in building chrome by ourselves. If we are paranoid about chrome recording few things that we do, we should ideally use a different browser, like Firefox
I hope I never see you in the future trying to promote people to get enrolled with openSUSE or crying about the lack of it... Because such attitudes just make contributors run away... Raymond (and many others) work and efforts should be rewarded, and situations like the one you suggest doesn't sound like a reward. I've been noticing openSUSE is closing all the channels for free contributors... If you SUSE/Novell/Attachmate or whoever is pushing the hidden agenda's want to block contributors, then just state what you are trying to accomplish, because most of what I ear is play bullshit and everyone is loosing credibility (one example: the current board and the Foundation to be done during this year). NM
Sankar
On 11/23/2011 at 11:40 PM, in message <4430597.lteV4vvxfT@hqvmt4xx20.eur.cchbc.com>, Raymond Wooninck
wrote: With openSUSE 12.1 the Chromium browser became part of the openSUSE release, after spending quite some time in the openSUSE:<release>:Contrib repositories. Unfortunately a bug report was created (bnc#731832), where an user complains
that openSUSE is releasing an alpha version of the Chromium browser and that
this should be a stable version. It seems that the reporter bases his statement on the fact how Ubuntu, Archlinux and Debian are handling the Chromium browser. This seems to be complete based on the Chrome browser.
I did some digging of my own and I found the following webpage that explains
the release management behind Chrome and Chromium (http://ftagada.wordpress.com/2011/01/19/chromium-release-management- explained/)
Half way the page is the following indicated: "I (the author, an Ubuntu packager) said in the introduction that there is no such thing upstream. They have enough in their plate with just Chrome. So it is up to each downstream distribution to decide what is best for its users."
So officially there are no alpha, beta or stable versions of Chromium and it
is up to each dsitribution to decide what they want to ship. For openSUSE 12.1 it is too late to change anything here as that this would mean that existing
users might experience loss-of-data as that their profiles are not compatible with lower versions of Chromium. However for the upcoming 12.2 release there
is still time to decide which way openSUSE wants to go. At this moment I see
three possibilities:
1) Keep things the way they are. Chromium will be updated regularly to the latest available version. No change from the current procedure
2) openSUSE will use the Chrome release management and the Chromium package will be frozen until the Stable version has reached the current version of Chromium. Then this is the package that will be maintained from that moment onwards.
3) We have a mixture of the above. In the Chromium devel-project (network:chromium), two packages are maintained. The first package chromium will follow the stable releases and a second package chromium-unstable will follow the current procedure and gets a weekly update. However the chromium- unstable package will never be submitted to Factory.
Before making m choice in what to provide, I would like to have your feedback on how to continue this. Honestly speaking I do not like option 3 as that this would mean double the work for me, but it is a possibility.
Thanks
Regards
Raymond (tittiatcoke)
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