On 10 February 2016 at 10:38, jdd <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
Le 10/02/2016 10:29, Richard Brown a écrit :
Yes, I agree, but we don't need a non-profit to do that, we need people to do it. We need people to localise materials, design materials, produce materials, distribute materials, attend events, advocate for openSUSE.. aka _CONTRIBUTE_ - not throw money at the problem and expect other people to do it.
are you joking? May be we don't need a non profit, but I have never seen any real effort to have localized *material*
We haven't seen people do it, but that doesn't mean we (the Project) doesn't want it In fact, a few years ago we had people standing up and saying they were willing and able to localise materials, but that the problem was money "We want to, but we can't afford to produce localised materials" And so we created the Local Reimbursement Programme so openSUSE could sponsor local teams to produce local materials https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Local_Material_Production_Reimbursement , launched almost 2 years ago So we removed the money problem...but no one has made use of it..
"We should have a non-profit because people need to throw money at openSUSE in order to feel like they 'own it'" is not a valid reason, and I fear leads to problems with the attitude of those who embrace that mindset.
in more than 40 years dealing with non profit organizations, I think you are completely wrong with this. Nobody never had such attitude. We always had a "do, we support" way of live.
How I can be completely wrong with this, when you said the following early in the thread: "it's a curious but constant feature of human nature than one is more linked to groups they have donated money than to the one they receive money from. the goal is to give people something where they can aggregate, because it's they own."
avoided), and money isn't a motivator..but those other factors like encoragement, collaboration, negotiation and cooperation are.. and I don't see how a non-profit helps with that.
did you ever work on non profit organization?
did you ever work in an open source community? I know that sounds harsh, you're a nice guy and a constant source of ideas and feedback to the Project, but in all the time I've known you I'm starting to wonder if you really understand what we do here and how we do it... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org