All, 2010/6/24 Cristian Morales Vega <cmorve69@yahoo.es>:
This doesn't pretends to be an attack in any way. Sincerely, if I read them correctly (not sure about that) the May stats say there were 1217 threads started, so 10 doesn't seems a big number. Since you are asking to assign resources to the forum, could you give ten examples of what would we achieve with that? This way everybody can judge by itself if it's worth the effort.
2010/6/24 Per Jessen <per@opensuse.org>:
Rupert, that is a LOT to ask of a volunteer community, IMHO. In other threads over the last week, we have, amongst other things, been discussing how to attract more contributors and developers to the project. I think the consensus has been that those people join and contribute because it's fun and/or because they/their contributions are recognized etc. To a lot of people, participating in webfora is arduous, hard work, even with the nntp access. You are asking for selfless acts from saints who expect no or little recognition.
What I try to outline is the following: We all need to see some de-facto interrelations and accept these. It's not about finding "ten threads worthing reading" but to see a situation as is and the opportunities we have ... We have a Distribution/Project and we have a supplying and demanding entity (contributors and users). Our goal is to grow the first portion out of the second one, right? Now, the second portion = the users by definition prefer to use a communication medium with a low entrance barrier and that's a fact you can't change it whatever you do. The first portion = the contributors do, for the major part, prefer to use a more advanced communication medium which is a fact as well. That's the situation we have to face and there's in general nothing wrong with that. BUT, this just is a summary of the situation. We don't get any further just seeing this. Now we need to think about our goal .. We want to grow the contributing community and to achieve this we urgently need to INTERFACE with the user community as our chance is to 1. recruit contributors out of those and 2. get as much feedback about our product back to the contributing community in order to improve it. Without a clear marketing/market focus and acceptance of the customers' crowd needs, demands and communication media they are used to we'll fail to achieve our common goal outlined above. Thus I'm talking about changing people's mind, thus I'm asking for forums participation, thus I'm focusing on the social part of the problem. The situation as is isn't changeable and is there by definition .. It's therefore inappropriate to discuss about their pros and cons BUT what we can do is being smart and adopt to reality, i.e. interface with the users in a given communication structure. Either we, at some point in time understand, that we work/contribute for the customer and the success of the openSUSE distribution/project OR we'll, at least from my perspective, ultimately fail in growing this beast here (our community) to something effective and forceful! To point this out and to raise people's attention on that particular matter I initially decided to join this discussion. I hope it'll be fruitful :-) Respectfully, R -- Rupert Horstkötter open-slx Community Manager openSUSE Board Member http://open-slx.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org