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Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Dne neděle 8. srpna 2021 18:29:25 CEST, Per Jessen napsal(a):
Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Dne neděle 8. srpna 2021 14:36:11 CEST, Richard Brown napsal(a):
Now I’ll need to fork, make my changes, probably argue with some self appointed reviewers who claim to know better about what is supported despite the fact I’m the one supporting it… Yeah; the more I think about these revamped docs the more insane this whole endeavour seems to be, especially given the total lack of engagement to date with the folk actually in a position of influence on what is “official” and therefore what should be in a curated “official” documentation.
I think the move can bring plenty of benefits. I agree that doing especially small changes is much faster on wiki. I'd say whole thing could be better discussed from beginning. On the other hand, it's perfect example of openSUSE "do-cracy" - group of active volunteers started to improve one of openSUSE long-lasting issues, which is positive. :-)
I have to wonder if it isn't one of the worst examples of what our "do-ocracy" can lead to. Riding roughshod over the wiki users and authors' community is not a best practice.
"Perfect" here doesn't mean "good" in the way everyone would be happy with result, but definitely "good" in a way it shows the principle, which definitely has pros and cons...
Okay, so a perfect example of how it can go wrong? :-)
I also think sensible criticism should be accepted and discussed instead of just arrogantly dismissed as "backpressure nonsense".
Well... discussion prior starting of the work wouldn't hurt here, but it happened, so what next?
Nothing irreversible has happened yet. Given the poor way it was approached, including the last-minute "discussion" here, maybe it's a good place to restart the process, beginning with an RFC adressed to all wiki authors. I totally appreciate how discouraging this would be to Adrien and his (apparently) invisible group of people, but I think this proposed migration was 1) approached with complete disregard for the users and 2) has serious potential to decimate our wiki author community.
I'd like to see just one doc.o.o for all documentation - Leap, TW & others, with some option to edit/add/contribute/report problems/... but that'd be another discussion...
It seems to me to be exactly the kind of discussion we could use. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (21.3°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes