Hello, Am Freitag, 20. März 2020, 19:55:29 CET schrieb Stasiek Michalski:
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 19:49, Sarah Julia Kriesch wrote:
Von: "Stasiek Michalski" <hellcp@opensuse.org>
No can do, we are getting flamewars, mud wrestling and, worst of all, lots of damage even without having any info, I can't imagine it gets any better than that. There is nothing else to earn here anymore, it will continue being more pain every day until we know everything, and more pain when we know everything, that's just how things are now, I'm sorry.
Didn't you receive enough facts from my side? In my point of view, we have got enough flamewars now. That was the reason for the suggestion not to publish more about the whole history (as Christian said). If the want to publish all reasons, we would have to publish confidential Board internal information. That should not be done.
I do not care about the facts only from your perspective,
Given the mails from several people (including the board) over the last weeks, I'm quite sure that you've seen several perspectives, including the board's perspective.
you are blocking the board from releasing their perspective.
Stasiek, I hope you realize that your statement is purely based on speculations (and maybe a problematic and questionable statement by Axel and Gertjan - see my mail yesterday for details about that). Maybe(!) it's Sarah who doesn't want to have the minutes disclosed. Maybe(!) it's $other_person or $group_of_persons who doesn't/don't want to have specific information published. In this case, your statement hurts and damages Sarah a lot. Maybe(!) it's a combination of the above, and multiple people don't want to have everything in public. Maybe because they realized that they would look bad, maybe they simply don't want the public mud wrestling, maybe both. Whichever of the above is true (no, I won't tell you ;-) [1] in the best interest of _all_ the involved people) - please stop these damaging speculations, and especially stop writing them in a way that makes them sound like facts! I already told you yesterday that the directly involved persons have agreed not to disclose further details [2]. Part of that is not to publish who allowed or declined disclosing the meeting minutes (and the history that explains them) because mentioning that would already imply that the other side wants to "hide something". Besides that, publishing more information would again be "from one perspective", obviously depending on who publishes it. If you don't like all this, feel free to write to the board - maybe(!) they'll tell you if you were right or if you have to apologize.
Any coin has two sides Sarah, one sided coin is impossible.
Maybe(!) this coin has even more than two sides? Regards, Christian Boltz [1] I won't even tell you if or if not I'd love to publish who allowed or disallowed publishing these things, because this would already give a pointer. [2] Note that this does not necessarily mean that everybody disallowed to publish the minutes. It just means that the involved people agreed on what I'd call the only sane solution. -- <sarnold> it's been on my todo list for eight or nine years, I'm sure I'll get around to it right quick :) [from #apparmor] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org