On 2020-11-29 10:21, Michal Kubecek wrote:
Seriously, if it's going to be a norm to react to perfectly normal e-mails like this with public scolding and strong words like "shaming people" and "assuming ill intent", I should probably reconsider if I want to be part of such "community" and participate in openSUSE mailing lists because I could also become a victim of this "politeness police" soon.
This is all ridiculous... And also ironic that Neal accuses people of "public shaming" and "assuming ill intent" in an e-mail where he is doing exactly that.
Michal Kubeček
I think Neal's general point and request that people try and elevate the tone of conversation in our lists is a valid one, well thought out, and justified. I'm not surprised that some folk might struggle with accepting that. I feel the specific post Neal used as an example is immaterial; For example, one might also consider a recent Factory thread where a certain maintainer attempts to cast shame and assumes ill-intent on an openSUSE release manager, who was in practice just dealing with the consequences of rpmlint changes made by other community members. I'm sure there are other examples readily findable, I agree with Neal that our collective tone is a problem, and I'm disappointed in those who are advocating against improving the decorum in our lists. I'm certainly going to keep Neal's request in mind in my own posts to the lists and I'd encourage other's to do so also. -Rich