Hey, On 21.11.2014 13:17, jdd wrote:
Le 21/11/2014 12:36, Henne Vogelsang a écrit :
On 20.11.2014 21:57, Roger Luedecke wrote:
Why
I can tell you why. It'll not be a nice thing to hear for most of us...
I don't agree entirely. searching to have more order send many people out. more below
Why do your bug reports go unanswered? Because we don't have enough people to support the amount of packages we ship.
bugzilla needs enhancement. Not to say it's easy. I think some more people could be allowed to give help, at least sorting bugs and helping bug writers to better make the report. Some kind of (internal?) doc is needed, for example to know to who assign a bug
And why do you think bugzilla enhancements don't get code, screening teams don't get formed or help documents don't get written?
Why is the wiki a mess? Because we don't have enough people maintaining it.
Google is good enough to find the data in the mess.
That's beside the point. If there is no one taking care of making your wiki (the tool) and it's content consumable then it doesn't matter if it gets found or not. Because once you've found it you can't do anything with it.
Why do those paper-cut issues slip through? Because every one who does something for this distribution is neck deep in putting the open leg fractures in splints.
this is not that important. openSUSE is still one of the first choice distribution.
Because we're still pulling this off. Is this sustainable in the future? I have doubts.
Why is our "marketing" often not to the point? If you simplify there are 2 big things we do (...)
sure, but also the marketing team have a complex situation: gather informations and write papers at least.
If it would be complex and cumbersome it would probably get done automatically.
The result is not that bad. Only one people full time (not even sure, is still Jos in charge?)
No one is in charge. SUSE hired someone to help with this (hey Douglas) but until he is up to speed it will be some time. And is that something that sounds healthy? That we need a sponsor to hire someone to do this?
Why don't we add tons of 'easy' features to our distribution? Why is our infrastructure outdated and largely unmaintained?
Why? The answer is always the same: It's too much to do for not enough people.
This has been a spiral for years now. We have too much on our plate. That's why we struggle to do even do the basics for everything. That's why nothing is very polished. That's why next to no new people join and a lot of people leave.
I was thinking french people where the only one to bash themselves, but looks like there are not alone. :-)
Henne, you are one of the most valuable openSUSE member and you make a splendid job.
Thank you Jean. Appreciated :-) Still I'm more than worried about the future of this project and distribution. To quote one of my favourite (French) Movies: There is a man falling from a 50-story sky scraper. To calm himself he is saying to himself: So far so good, so far so good, so far so good. But he misses the point, the important part is not the fall, it's the impact. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk77VrkxL88 Henne -- Henne Vogelsang http://www.opensuse.org Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org