Gesendet: Samstag, 14. März 2020 um 01:22 Uhr Von: "Knurpht-openSUSE" <knurpht@opensuse.org> An: opensuse-project@opensuse.org Betreff: Re: [opensuse-project] Call for a No-Confidence Vote - Re-Election of the openSUSE board
Op vrijdag 13 maart 2020 19:38:13 CET schreef Sarah Julia Kriesch:
Gesendet: Freitag, 13. März 2020 um 18:11 Uhr Von: "Vinzenz Vietzke" <vinz@vinzv.de> An: opensuse-project@opensuse.org Betreff: Re: [opensuse-project] Call for a No-Confidence Vote - Re-Election of the openSUSE board> Am 13. März 2020 16:36:14 schrieb Pierre Böckmann <pb@crowbyte.org>:
It indeed is *very* important because: The board didn't state anything until the former board members started to comment questions by the community.
Yes, but only after the statement the former members saw the need to defend themselves and disclose at least some details about what had happened.
No. They did (with variations of detail amount) before the board's statement that followed later on due to the pressure on the former members.
No. That is wrong! I did not say any confidentional information on the mailing list. I said only that our resignations were in a relationship. Nothing else. Marina has published most content via the email by the openSUSE Board and has pushed the discussion then.
Stop making Marina your target. She was only the messenger. And you know that. You were on the board and know very well that this kind of messages do not go out without mutual consent of the other board members.
And I think this community would have failed if it had not asked question when a board member steps down because of events within the board that are in conflict with his moral and principles.
And I think some people in this community failed as they did not respect the clearly stated wish of both former members not to tell the details. And that despite the repetition of this wish.
And that was Marina with the email by the Board!
Don't blame Marina, you know very well who you're really blaming. I'm here. If you want to make this personal, use my name. I am and was the one you're looking for. No. You were only the initiator. The decision was made without you. Pierre has
I don't make Marina as my target. I wrote "email by the openSUSE Board". She sent the email. figured out correctly the former Board Member because of the same conduct on our mailing lists as before [0] and why I have written my email to the openSUSE Board: "I can't help myself here but to say honestly and with all due respect: In the light of the words of Christians comment about the boards official announcement those last words from you are quite cynical, disrespectful, maybe even rude and disgusting. Sorry, that I have to say that in those clear words." This guy has represented himself (with the company signature!) on the same way during the application period with speaking bad about the openSUSE Heroes Team [1], myself and others. He had interacted on the same way in the openSUSE Board in the past and is doing so on our mailing lists continuously. Does that match our Code of Conduct or do we have special rules for such people? Additionally, I did not say anything confidentional on Telegram, too. I said only that I had to resign. There is a difference between Telegram and archived mailing lists. The openSUSE Board did that alone and has stood for a worst-case management there. That is really vague without good arguments. Did you have a look into our Board list after the resignation of 2 Board Members? That is no surprise for the interrelated protection. In my point of view that is more difficult to find new Board Member candidates who want to work together with the existing Board than a re-election of all Board Members. Best regards, Sarah
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