Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
On Thu, 2015-06-11 at 20:45 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
Françoise Wybrecht wrote:
Sharing and communicating on a mailing list ... is a non-sense when we do nothing else then giving different points of vue.
Slow & slow, most ppl go back to their priorities and shut up.
I cannot change that ...and I honnestly don't know who can or could.
As said ... when we just go on talking and in fact, nothing change, everybody will logically just contribuate to the distribution, and forget the community (project). Yes, it was the fun ...
To maintain a living, thriving community, the community has to be in charge, completely. The community has to have complete ownership of their "baby". In my opinion, that is not situation at openSUSE. I am deliberately not judging whether that is good or bad, I am just observing.
Sorry about my late response, on the weekend my priorities are different :-)
In which parts is this not the case?
All the admin for instance. Is anyone in the community running bugzilla for instance? YasT also appears to be in the hands of SUSE. The xen stuff also seem to be mostly handled by SUSE staff.
The only SUSE appointed role is the chairman of the board. Everything else is up for take by any volunteer and in case of conflicting views, where 'non-suse' feels 'suse' is pushing beyond reason, we have the freight train https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Freight_Train
And for sure, openSUSE project have many forces and quality, but not communication & welcoming. That's it.
We have a distinct lack of leadership. Anarchy is not great for communication & being welcoming.
As above you state the community has to be in control: do you want to assume the role?
No, I don't want to own the project as a whole, but I'd be happy to assume ownership and dedicate my time to those bits where I feel qualified.
What exactly would that role be like? What are its powers? Its limits? As you stated above the community must own the whole thing: don't suggest that SUSE would sponsor this role.
When someone has ownership of something, they're are in complete control. I don't see any limits. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (18.0°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org