On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 21:12:15 -0500, Rajko wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 04:06:19 +0000 (UTC) Jim Henderson <hendersj@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:38:22 -0500, Rajko wrote: ...
Absolutely not. Whether we like it or not spam is part of online business and even complicated form did not prevent it. In other words it is useless as a deterrent.
You have no data that I am aware of (as I'm not sure how you'd gather it) to demonstrate that the level of spam isn't lower than it would be with a simpler process.
It is expectation that with lower barrier to contribution, we will have more members and that will lower chance of spam being undetected for longer period of time which will lower spammer's incentive to post spam.
Have you ever been contacted by someone who said "gee, I'd love to contribute to the openSUSE project, but your sign-up form is just too long; it'd take me 2 minutes to fill it out, but I can only spare 10 seconds to fill out the form." I kinda doubt it. If someone wants to contribute to the project and sign up for an account, taking the 2 minutes to register is small compared to the amount of time they'll put into the project if they want to be a significant contributor. It's not like they have to fill the darned form out every time they make a contribution to the project. They fill it out exactly *once*. Then maybe another 5-10 minutes turnaround (not of actual *work*) to validate their e-mail address.
Of course, if you do, feel free to share it. I'd be interested in how you gathered it.
You don't need data, just a bit knowledge about spammers and their tools. The rest is just a logical conclusion.
The rest is a guess - maybe an educated guess, but still a guess.
Spammers use bots, as confirmed by Christian, that handle long and short forms with the same level of satisfaction (they don't care), which we can't tell for humans, considering repeated complaints. In other words we repel only real people by using long form.
Well, I guess it was time for the annual debate about this anyways. ;) Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org