Hi everyone, I'm the starter of this thread, and I definitely don't think that all is doom and gloom for openSUSE. I think I mentioned that I have also switched back to openSUSE thanks to the combination of the new Tumbleweed availability and the 13.2 fixed release. I think that the OBS and YaST are two defining features of openSUSE that make it uniquely valuable for my needs, and Packman is also superb, albeit poorly integrated by openSUSE. As far as bug handling, I have actually found openSUSE to fairly efficient. I reported a *LOT* of bugs against Factory rolling (now Tumbleweed) and the 13.1 RC, ranging from a few fairly serious, others petty, others "nice to have" requests. Overall, I was fairly impressed with the response I got. In fact, I would say that my experience with bug reporting was significantly better than Arch and Ubuntu, and infinitely better than the offshoot projects that depend completely on a parent distro and don't really fix their own core OS bugs (Mint, Manjaro, etc). With regards to documentation, frankly I feel that *all* distros except Arch have pretty awful documentation. Ubuntu is huge and commercial, but their documentation is also horrible-- incomplete and terribly out of date. Debian's is also very lacking and assumes great technical knowledge. Only Arch is a shining star of excellent documentation. Fortunately with systemd and other projects that make the underlying system more unified across distros, I just use the Arch wiki for almost everything, and it's mostly applicable to openSUSE too. I don't mean to give the wrong impression with this thread. As I mentioned, I wanted to gauge interest in fixing smallish "paper-cut" issues, not core, fundamental, ideological, or infrastructure-related changes. I don't think openSUSE should be a clone of Ubuntu, but there is considerable room for improvement in terms of ease-of-use and refinement. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org