-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/10/2010 03:26 PM, C wrote:
This concept of Linux IS Ubuntu is so all pervasive that everywhere you go on the web to find software, research how to do something... it's Ubuntu Ubuntu Ubuntu. Software vendors always provide Ubuntu builds, and it's a tossup if they provide an openSUSE build.... some do, most don't. Solutions to common problems and issues... you can count on there being an Ubuntu solution.. openSUSE solutions might be there, but they are harder to locate, and often very very outdated (ie for 9.1).
Brand recognition is a major factor... and we're missing that.
Yet... openSUSE does have a clear and recognizable image... the colors... the desktop design... the Geeko. Anyone can instantly pick out openSUSE (assuming default setup) in a screenshot lineup.
This is a big one, and can cover a huge range of what openSUSE is.
Add to this.. make it easy to build bootable USB installs from ALL isos, not just the LiveCDs.
I think everyone should have to install Ubuntu and use it for a few hours to see what they have done to resolve this issue. openSUSE has definitely made incredible strides to resolving this, but the Ubuntu solution is... so simple.... and so user friendly.
This is well stated. This, in my mind, is the goal of defining the goals and strategies.
C.
I have to agree with all the valid points that you make obvious in your response C. I am a full-time Ubuntu user and I have to be honest here, that openSUSE has a long way to go to be close to the ease-of-use and support that Ubuntu has built for itself. And I also develop for Fedora and it also has much better support than openSUSE. Albeit openSUSE is making improvement to all the aforementioned, it's still a long way behind and not making the improvement at a fast enough rate to catch up. As an observer and follower of openSUSE it's a real worry of the long-term future of openSUSE. That's not to say it doesn't have a real future ahead of them, but things have to change, and those changes have to happen sooner rather than later. I find system update speed is a big issue for me with openSUSE. I recently tested out the gold release of openSUSE 11.3. After some dabbling around and many fresh installs, I found it just wasn't for me. Not because I love and use Ubuntu, but because it's fast when it comes to updates. That's just one example. I could rant and go on further about more issues, but now is not the time or place for it to be frankly honest. In summary, please don't think I am putting openSUSE down, I'm not. I just think the crucial areas that drive a Linux distributions forward and gain market share, openSUSE is lacking almost all of them. Just my 2 cents. - -- http://home.comcen.com.au/foxmulder881/signature/details.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMYfELAAoJEDb/U0a6C32q8z4H/iITjmTHvem7HgTBLfMndWGG ut+uMcNFr3HmhP60uMpPMxSEKVX//km6YeEm5SEDuURJrYB3yyRWWK+vW9yn3pXR KZx0ObD3MwI+/CxglHTCtjWqky5BTSN7v8ek5MHF1DBZK1PQ5bfWhYInGdNZnkxU JLqzHZysyktaXztNPp4BkQSZMDMWR4Xi7+JQoFZbdz6LsI63GvlPtz5ON234T32Z g+OuBw3WC6llg+7gIqFz1SOFPUCo7iOPaslKAdPbW961HbiwvLYPoaRDaqzKtSv2 LoZ361iU4uaCrVUZg7dCKDWzGrQde8fFZvLVzd8dG/8qLxUyp6P0Pe8vqbR1uCc= =8u0e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org