On 06/15/2015 09:54 PM, Robert Schweikert wrote:
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On 06/15/2015 02:35 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
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I am not certain I would call it an "invitation" but in principal that is the way its is. The release manager that we have and that happens to get paid by SUSE is now going to build a distribution around SLES sources. As a contributor he has every right, just like everyone else, to work on what ever is interesting to him or whatever his employer feels like he should be working on.
Why is it that we in the openSUSE community would expect this stuff should work differently for us than it does in any other open source project? How many contributions are there in the kernel from @intel.com e-mail addresses that fix issues on ARM? I bet very few if any. SUSE thinks that there is benefit to have a release based around the SLES sources. Lengthy and reasonable arguments have been made that this also happens to be a benefit to the openSUSE project. I agree there is benefit. Yes, you can look up every response I wrote in those threads and in case it is not obvious I think this is not a good idea. Well, the concept of :42 has it's target audience, and in and of itself is a good idea. But from my perspective we are vacating the middle of the spectrum by not having the current release model continue and I do not like it! However, I stated my case, the decision has been made and I cannot and do not expect that anyone else will do my bidding. It is now time to put up or shut up. If a yearly Factory snapshot based release is so important to me, and others, I/we can learn what it takes to build a release in OBS and do the work, or I can decide to get over it and use :42, or I can choose to use something else entirely. No one is being forced to do anything they don't want to just because the release manager decided that he would rather spend his time building something new. What if there was a team of people from the community wanting to continue the previous release model? We would have openSUSE 42.1 and openSUSE 13.3? My point is: who gives the power to one group of
On 06/15/2015 08:03 PM, Robert Schweikert wrote: people to use the openSUSE name for their new distribution without a vote from the members or at least a board decision through an open process? The process is open and Stephan tried to start the name discussion [1]. However it quickly drifted away and focused on something else.
It could be named openSLES or something... I guess it would be fair to start a discussion about the name with a message that only focuses on the name and nothing else.
Later, Robert
[1] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2015-06/msg00203.html - -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU Public Cloud Architect LINUX rjschwei@suse.com IRC: robjo -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2
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I agree. Also I think the name should be decided on this mailing list by the community or through a vote if there is no consensus. We voted before, why not vote again. I don't see any difference. Best, Angelos -- Angelos Tzotsos Remote Sensing Laboratory National Technical University of Athens http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org