Wow, a lot of stuff to read. I am sorry for top-posting but I find easier for me at that point instead of looking aroud to so many posts to quote. When it comes to localizing material things are pretty easy. We have 14 different language speaking mailing lists, 15 if you count opensuse-project as an English langouage plus 6 of them that are specificly to localization (find all that to http://lists.opensuse.org/ ). The easiest think someone can actually do is go to those lists, organise a marketing localizaton hacathon and after that make a budget of how much money the print of that stuff costs and send the budget to the Local Reimburshement Program for aproval. Even if you manage to make a foundation I don't really understand how this will help for localization to be simpler. Now when it comes to donations we have to make clear at least from what I understood based on Jdd's writes is that people will donate to an organization that will donate those money to the openSUSE project so the option to donate to the project won't be inside the openSUSE wiki or any other 'formal' openSUSE web page or document. All that leaves me with a personal query of how all this will eventually work. So I don't personally like the idea but if people want to do it and can do it, in the end of the day is in their plate and people can do it as far as I am conserned. But I still cannot see how something like that will work under those circumstances. Have a nice day Kostas 2016-02-11 4:34 GMT+02:00 Jim Henderson <hendersj@gmail.com>:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:49:29 +0100, jdd wrote:
Le 10/02/2016 19:15, Jim Henderson a écrit :
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:43:13 +0100, jdd wrote:
It's not true to say that money is never a problem, else we should have ton's of booth kits in every language and we have not.
Arguably, something like this should be produced on-demand, rather than being warehoused for use. That's what the local reimbursement process is intended to be used for.
For what I have in mind the page
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Local_Material_Production_Reimbursement
need at least large improvement, as do the TSP system.
I would agree that those changes are changes that should be looked at.
Perhaps a solution here would be for me to step down from the local reimbursement team, and for jdd to pick it up?
Jim
certainly not
I suggest that not because I think you're giving me (or the local reimbursement team) a hard time and are looking to supplant what we're doing. Quite the opposite - when I agreed to join (lead?) that team, I had a lot of free time on my hands.
Since then, I've started a new job (which I've been at for over a year now) and am moving into management. I've also taken on an advisory board position with the Linux Foundation - in addition to being a non-technical admin of the openSUSE forums and a Micro Focus knowledge partner.
Oh, and I'm moving at the end of this month, and again at the end of April (if construction has completed on my new place by then).
So I'm spread pretty thin, and far from thinking I can continue to take on additional tasks, I'm actually looking to narrow my focus a little bit so I have time to myself and to spend with my family as well.
I'm more than happy to hand it off to someone who has the time and the energy to promote the program the way it needs to be promoted, because (as I mentioned before), it hasn't been used since I joined it - I've received zero requests. So there's money there to do some of the things you outlined above, but nobody knows about it because I haven't had the time to put into reaching out to various people or groups to see how we can better promote openSUSE at those events.
jdd NB: forgive me if I'm not always very easy to understand. Writing this in English is very difficult for me, much more than writing a bug report :-(
It's not a problem, jdd. :) In my professional life, I'm a technical writer and content strategist, and there are days that I can't write clearly enough in my native language, much less in a language that's a second language for me.
Jim
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