Am Samstag, 9. Januar 2021, 10:59:04 CET schrieb Neal Gompa:
- there was some confusion around the activation of online repositories during installation from DVD. It is unclear where it is used or necessary for. -> a clarification that enabling the online repositories gives a wider variety of desktops and additional software should be included -> this hits for some parts the recent discussion if we can include repos like packman right at installation time -> If I remember correctly, a TW DVD with online repos enabled installs only if no new snapshot was released. Enabling the online repos on a DVD install pulls most packages from the repository instead of the DVD. This is clearly not a smart move, and I would consider this as bug. The reviewer had actually the same complaint.
I agree with this complaint. It confused me as well when I first started using openSUSE, and it surprised me that there is no straightforward way to have both networking set up and use DVD repos for install.
Currently installer will always use latest available packages, from any enabled and available repo. Current options are no network, no online repos, install latest packages entirely from DVD; or yes network, enable online repos, and install latest packages (which are probably online).
Is it really useful to install Tumbleweed with network available and intentionally keep the system out-of-date for the first boot? Eventually you will update, right -- and then the net bandwidth use is the same?
In principle to achieve this the online repos could be added but kept disabled during installation, and enabled only after.
If you say 'no' to activate online repos at installation. the DVD installation adds the repos afterwards - otherwise TW would not roll :-)
When using the DVD, yes. Especially if you're on constrained bandwidth.
That was the main concern of the reviewer, he was on limited bandwidth. So if one wants to update later, 'no repo' is the way. But that limits you in the same moment on available desktops (for example)
Given the frequency of Tumbleweed updates, it's reasonable for this case to work, because forcing online repos to be used even when using the DVD media is essentially saying you don't want to let someone do a known-good install. There are legitimate reasons for needing to be able to do that (bypassing bugs in YaST, broken kernel in repos, etc.).
To clarify this in the future, I have created https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/ show_bug.cgi?id=1180707 for the YaST team Cheers Axel