On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 23:05:40 +0100, Michal Hrusecky wrote:
Jim Henderson - 18:02 10.02.16 wrote:
"We should have a non-profit because people need to throw money at openSUSE in order to feel like they 'own it'" is not a valid reason, and I fear leads to problems with the attitude of those who embrace that mindset.
I agree that that's not something I want to see as an outcome. But I think it's a leap to go from "we'd like to set up a non-profit for openSUSE to do 'x'" to "people will give money and feel that they have a stake in the project" without any intermediate steps about how such donations are collected, what is communicated when people make their donation, etc. There's a whole lot of process around that that is not defined here.
I would like to hear in this discussion more of "we'd like to do 'x' which is currently not possible, so we would like to have a non-profit for openSUSE to help us achieve that". Wanted to verbatim copy "we'd like to set up a non-profit for openSUSE to do 'x'", but hopefully this formulation is less ambiguous. So far the only reason I hear for creating a foundation is to have a place that people can send money to feel better. I thought churches were for that.
I see a foundation and money as a tool to help us achieve something. Not as a goal. And as it is tool that would cost a lot of valuable resources (peoples time to manage it), I would like to check whether there isn't some cheaper way to achieve that goal, so people can do more marketing/artwork/developement/translation instead of managing foundation.
I think, based on the subject of the thread, that that's what jdd's driving towards. He's asking if we need something like a non-profit to deal with a perceived shortcoming. I would also like to hear more about what the goal is. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org