-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/15/2015 10:59 AM, jdd wrote:
Le 15/06/2015 16:04, Robert Schweikert a écrit :
Great, step right in, there are plenty of holes to fill if you need help finding the holes let me know and I'll be happy to help you identify them.
IMHO you are not covering the subject.
All what you describe is exact, and it have a measurable cost for SUSE. As our main sponsor, SUSE could give to the community the corresponding money, in place of doing the job.
Why? What would the benefit to the company be? Everything is a two way street. While there is cost to SUSE to do what is being done there is also a benefit or there would be no money, no help, no .... The same will be true for any other sponsor one might find. Lets look at The Linux Foundation (LF) as an example. LF is funded by hundreds of member companies (the pay to show you care membership model) and those funds pay the salaries of Linus and Greg as the most prominent kernel hackers. Do you think these companies spend the money to be an LF member out of the "goodness of their heart"? They do not. They spend the money because they believe there is a benefit and a return to being a member of the LF. There is a benefit to SUSE and there are personal attachments to the project for many people inside of SUSE.
so the community could manage the money and do the same job, may be differently.
*do not think I ask for this*. It would be a hard move, full of dangers, and not to be done - if done at all - without extreme caution, but the fact is SUSE likes better to work like it works now.
Sorry, and I can certainly not claim to be the authority on this but, this is simply a blatantly over reaching assumption and nothing else. It works the way it does because this is the way it works for SUSE, NOT because this is the way it has to be. Anyone is welcome to show up with a sponsor, or be a personal sponsor, that is willing to host part of or all of the infrastructure. The few sponsors we have that give us hardware are generally quiet happy to ship the machine(s) to Nuremberg and then forget about it and let someone else have the maintenance cost. If anyone is willing to host the machines at their house I am certain that arrangements can be made to get the machines shipped there. And by the way, please be prepared to explain to everyone that contributes to the openSUSE project why you will not give them a key to your house. Although it may appear that this is of utmost importance to the success of the project.
What we see now is that SUSE acts in very open way, probably more open than anybody in the project expected it to be. Thanks SUSE.
Still having only one real big sponsor is a difficult situation,
Yes, I bet you will find no one that will disagree with this. There is also nothing in the way of someone else stepping in as a sponsor, and we do have a few. Some of those do not show up as a sponsor as they do not wish to be mentioned.
specially when this sponsor is sold every year to a new owner, but life is made like this.
Well MicroFocus is a bigger public company that has in previous years successfully fought off private equity take over attempts. Thus, there is hope that the current arrangement will be stable for a while.
trying to go back to usefull stuff :-)->
I would like to have the membership official "search for infos" menus added to the "opensuse members"
https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/groups/111/opensuse-members/
and "geekos"
https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/groups/112/geekos/
groups
I don't know if I'm clear :-(. I would like to have for each of the said grups a page like this one:
https://connect.opensuse.org/mod/groups/membershipreq.php?group_guid=1
11
(this page is restricted access, but I hope the board can read it)
no emergency...
I don't get it, you are part of the membership team, go do it! Check with the rest of the group and get it done. If you need technical help I am certain Michal will help. I think he is left holding the stick on the connect development side. Do it, don't ask others to do it for you. Later, Robert - -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU Public Cloud Architect LINUX rjschwei@suse.com IRC: robjo -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVfwzjAAoJEE4FgL32d2Ukz/YH/32WhLt59scArfXJEO2B0stM 9OgaFb0A2mZAwGZzoM5jz6wwnUygMA+JALwj9xOR4urdsP8xCCvr9OQLr/4bEmb+ 19UIMMxrP/mKnRRwI/+Zhk0XpPom9qkgiB9rlriWArId1xYOky0bffuYyEH3GIQg lG6qwvFszVfxhZrCdse4dAkpxBsRsKzRLDQ/OA51mBLhBKIfnScVWC9aB7vuwxH3 Pmrqpv+5fGXg9B55H67g4+XqFppmxOp2DPlpuoNummN+MvJCPgN4IV8QMRnxctuH XEiQiScRy9EfGrLKz6mWndz/pRINIw1/fWGZeQIxZ4HuWuo0AH5nvl5uEvK3XgM= =68oa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org