I. Am 14/02/11 10:11, schrieb jdd:
Le 14/02/2011 09:51, pistazienfresser (see profile) a écrit :
There are several different versions of the Creative Commons licenses (CC) that are not only translated but adapted to different legal systems (hopefully with success).
is that possible? Do we have different rights with the same cc-XX-XX in different countries? that seems impossible (if the application country is not quoted in the document) Maybe you (pl.) take one and some more looks at:
http://creativecommons.org/affiliates and may-maybe also (I did not understand all [or tried to read the large third article] in France): http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Commons http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licence_Creative_Commons http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licence_libre For some legislations are not all CC available in all the newest versions but see for example: by-nc-sa 2.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/fr/ http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/fr/legalcode http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/de/ http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/de/legalcode http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/jp/ http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/jp/legalcode II.
And also at least the de and en Wikipedia are using (at least first and foremost - e. g. once there was dual licensing in the de.Wikipedia).
looks even multilicencing in the de one (but I don't read german :-()
there can be only one text for any contract, how could you manage it elsewhere?
of course we can do dual licencing, but each time you add a licence you add weekness, as any people can choose the weeker licence for his use, what's the purpose of a licence, then?
I would be more for a real switch (after a open discussion and a decision of the board). If cautious you may ask after that the user if he or she is willing to accept the switch for his work (or just export his work and the according article will be freezed). But to keep the relations: a while ago nearly the hole old en.wiki was 'transferred' the the new wiki just with copy and past and not caring about any licenses and original authors - to my knowledge only few had protested at all and who had sued? III.
in our situation, choosing Xgpl or CC is more of a philosophy choice, copyleft versus copyright...
When you see "GPL" in any licence, you know it's free, whatever version you choose. When you see CC-, you don't and have to go to the CC site to know wich version is free and wich is not, this is not good
I would prefer a version that is at least probably valid for the most authors and users and so probably *able to protect the authors* from claims of stupid users that had misunderstood a how-to and claims to be aggrieved. And if the wiki should be also be for the work of the masses (not only the professionals like programmers)- what would you think is more probably be rated valid by a French judge it a French user would clam to be not able to understand or even read the text of the en:licence=>? contract by annex? // de: Lizenz=>Allgemeine Geschäftsbedingungen // fr: =>? contrat_d'adhésion or in any other legislation of a country in the/attached to the EU compare: Council Directive 93/13/EEC of 5 April 1993 on unfair terms in consumer contracts http://eur-lex.europa.eu/Notice.do?val=294482:cs&lang=de&list=294482:cs,&pos=1&page=1&nbl=1&pgs=10&checktexte=checkbox&visu=#texte / with a legislation alike that legal system ( fr:système juridique / de: Rechtssystem) => (in the same de:Rechtskreis -> )? Compare at least the graphic on: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syst%C3%A8me_juridique http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rechtsordnung http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rechtskreis http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sistema_jur%C3%ADdico http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%8... IV. For other obvious problems compare: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-wiki/2010-08/msg00042.html and following V. As I have already explained I am not really able to follow why the licenses issue would be pressing or even relevant for the openSUSE Weekly News - but if it comes to the wiki(s) it would make much sense in my opinion. /;) VI. What was the phrase that professionals on informatics sometimes say about reading manuals/texts ? /;-) Please do not forget to at least try to have a lot of fun! Regards pistazienfresser -- - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org