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On 08.08.21 18:49, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 08/08/2021 15.11, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
On 08.08.21 13:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 08/08/2021 12.42, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
But the *availability* of editors does not harm you. So I don't understand why you object the possibility of using an editor instead of an web browser.
No, I object to the idea that I could find enticing the idea of editing plain text with tokens to produce formatting. I find that kind of editing disgusting.
Then just use the WYSIWYG editor. What's the problem with the *availability* of tools?
It is not the availability of tools, but the fact that you consider that /I/ could use vi (or (gah) notepad) to edit a document with some kind of advanced format.
"You could" in the sense that "you would have the option to". I'm not sure if "our problem" here right now is just a language problem, both of us not being native english speakers? "You would have the option to use an editor if you wanted."
Again, I understand a coder likes the idea, but not a writer and you have to understand that. Yet another markdown language to learn? No way.
I never suggested you *should* use an external editor. You would have the option to just use the WYSIWYG web editor, similar to the wiki.
For a similar reason, I don't translate man pages, and practically nobody does. The majority of man pages are not translated.
Hey, this is another question for the project: what do you intend to do to translate man pages?
And now that I think about this, will this new documentation be translated, and how?
This could maybe crowd-sourced with platforms like transifex
What about availability of offline tools to work in a WYSIWYG or WYMIWYG manner on markdown documents?
Do you have an offline tool for the wiki? If not, how is this relevant to our discussion?
If I google "what is markdown text" the first hit is "Getting Started | Markdown Guide" at https://www.markdownguide.org/getting-started/, and the first editor I'm offered is "Visual Studio Code text editor", not vi. Then it goes on to suggest tools that have the editor on the left pane and the rendered text on the right. For Linux it suggests ReText or ghostwriter,
retext and ghostwriter are readily available via "zypper in"
not vi, although I don't see photos.
I also did not suggest vi as "markdown editor". I do not understand how you come to this conclusion. All I wanted to say is "it's just text, you can edit it with *any* editor, even NOTEPAD.EXE" (which of course is not meant seriously). And contrary to HTML and other markup languages, Markdown is pretty readable even as plain text. This is why I do not use a special "markdown editor", it's just good enough in $EDITOR and the few syntax elements I need I can type faster than select them from some menu. But of course it also works with a "markdown editor". If you do not want to install one, just use the github or gitlab or whatever platform we'll be using web editor. They are all usable nowadays, I'd guess the feature difference to the mediawiki editor is not too huge (but I have not recently compared them). -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman