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Datum: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:12:38 +0200 Von: "Rémy Marquis" <remy.marquis@gmail.com> An: "pistazienfresser (see profile)" <pistazienfresser@gmx.de> CC: opensuse-project@opensuse.org Betreff: Re: [opensuse-project] Build Service: No Application Black List exists
Am 27/08/10 02:15, schrieb Stephan Kleine:
On Friday August 27 2010 02:07:50 pistazienfresser (see profile) wrote:
Dear board, dear openSUSEs,
same play, different stones:
the link
" http://en.opensuse.org/Application_Black_List "
on the website of the openSUSE Build Service https://build.opensuse.org/ leads to an empty page/a page with no content.
That is prolly yet another example of a page that didn't yet get
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 2:57 AM, pistazienfresser (see profile) <pistazienfresser@gmx.de> wrote: transfered to
the new wiki (or I am too dumb to find it with the new search).
I may be not very polite but sometimes more honest and I really doubt that *you* (Stephan) are dumb.
There is a page with a list on http://old-en.opensuse.org/Application_Black_List (last edit of the content of the list on 4 March 2010).
The remark on this page leads to: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_Application_Blacklist
On this URL had been a redirect to http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_application_blacklist . This redirect has been deleted on 17 August 2010.
However, the rules didn't change, you can see the old version at
http://old-en.opensuse.org/Application_Black_List
Is it nowadays just allowed to build a package for every kind of software? How long has this status of law and contract been lasting till now?
No, this is merely a wiki thingy, the same rules still apply.
The joke lies in the logic of rules and rules of rules: If the user/builder did not get informed of the rules (or at least get the real possibility/probability to inform himself) there are just no binding rules on the level of contracts.
The play of moving and deleting sees to have been being played for just a while but the thrill may come with the consequences (hopefully not).
Regards Martin
Seems I forgot to check and change the redirect on old-en wiki when I changed capitalization, sorry for that. :/
As there is no and seems to have been never any redirect on the liked page http://en.opensuse.org/Application_Black_List that would have made not much difference in the normative existence of a blacklist for the users of the openSUSE project Build Service.
Also, I guess -wiki ML would be more appropriate to discuss such issue next time.
I think that mailing list have proven to be insufficient in such an issue. The problem of not making and deleting redirects and breaking links and also of the users (like Stephan) are not able to find what they are looking for (even if they new the right words) have been discussed there over and over: Examples: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-wiki/2010-07/msg00346.html and following http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-wiki/2010-08/msg00006.html and following http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-wiki/2010-07/msg00201.html Evidently there has been no sufficient change. And as the other subprojects and their team members are probably the ones affected in liability at least as much as the wiki team members if such a fault get to a real (financial) harm: I rate it fair to give the other teams a realistic chance to take notice, too. The link " http://en.opensuse.org/Application_Black_List " on the website of the openSUSE Build Service https://build.opensuse.org/ is *still* now (12:14:30 MEST) leading to an empty page/a page with no content. Regards Martin -- GMX DSL SOMMER-SPECIAL: Surf & Phone Flat 16.000 für nur 19,99 ¿/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org