Hello, Reading the Pascal platform, I was concerned by his declaration about foundation. Not to say he's not right :-) I simply think that some ideas have to be discussed and may be the moment is there because it have impact on the vote for the board. * initially, the foundation was seen as a fund raiser. May be this is the error. * the other openSOURCE project (Fedora, for example) have a structure, why should it be impossible for us (I mean why should it be so difficult to find people to manage it) * one of the problem I see now in our work is that volunteers can see they work as a work for free in the benefit of the sponsor. Don't read me bad. I like the way our sponsor help us, but the truth is we have absolutely no control on the ressource and this is not good. People who work should have some control. Of course we have to work in sinergy: make the sponsor happy is a good thing, but we should have an independent voice also. * That's why I would like to see a "friends of openSUSE" non profit group as, for example, there are several for my ISP. These/this group could share free comments and make the basis for a may be future foundation. Of course this group would in no way receive massive amount of money nor hold the openSUSE name ownership, but could share and collect non official information (in both direction, to and from SUSE). I still want to say I'm really glad to see this much good candidates. Choosing will be hard :-) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org