OK, I am sorry I ever spoke up. I am Novell. I make my living believing in and supporting the overall values and imagination employed in the creation of every product it sells. My reason for speaking was merely to help motivate the improvements necessary for OEM's to see openSUSE in the same light it does Ubuntu but with one large advantage, the ability to upgrade to a truly magnificent enterprise version from a truly magnificent community version. I was hoping to inspire the notion that if SLED is to be the rock solid undeniably enterprise ready version why couldn't openSUSE at least be as off the shelf functional as Ubuntu (baring non-oss inclusions). I don't like being second place merely because I forgot to cross the "T's" and dot the "i's" and lets face it, that has been the biggest issue since 10.2 was released because Novell and the community are doing so well. Now I'm not saying it's possible to do all that crossing and doting at release but a hardened version or a 10.3 with all the last changes released as a "10 Final" would not hurt us or Novell. It would merely increase the curiosity with regard to the question "if the community version is this good, why not get support and all the non-oss stuff for xx$, on my next PC?" It's our duty to find a way to keep the libre\free version of SUSE as close to enterprise as possible without stealing it's thunder. We have to find a BETTER blend of reliability and pioneering edge. James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org