On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 12:05, Henne Vogelsang <hvogel@opensuse.org> wrote:
Richard, when you where appointed by SUSE as the chairman of the openSUSE board, you joined a community of people who work as a team.
As you well know, I was part of that community long before my involvement in it's Board, as both an elected member and then it's Chairman. I feel your dismissal of that undermines your points below regarding our guiding principles, especially those relating to "respect for others and their work"
Our guiding principles expect from everyone, including you, to value openness. To value transparency of the decision making & collaboration processes, transparency of communication. The same guiding principles encourage you to _listen_ to arguments and to address problems in a constructive and open way.
I personally don't see how painting everything in black and white helps to bring this exchange of ideas to a collaborative end. Or how behaving this way is reconcilable with our guiding principles.
There are many people in this thread who try to address the gray areas in between, who acknowledge the fact that there is something in between "fuzzy feelings" and "reality show drama". Please open your mind, that is what this community, and the principles it's founded on, expect from everyone.
And I believe throughout this thread I have shown a repeated effort to listen and understand. Of course there is significant amount of grey areas, and this discussion has most certainly helped evolve my position. I wouldn't describe my current views as simple black and white, and you can see examples of that in much of the mail you neglected to quote. Specifically the areas where I state "I have no problem with the diversity of thought among the Board being public knowledge, but I do have a problem when that transitions from sharing the fact the board contains more than one opinion, to Board members publicly undermining the decision made by the collective whole group." "As a Board we could share both the majority and minority views on any decisions." "I'm happy to take from this lesson the collective decision that the Board will make less decisions and I will support any effort in the Board to push back from requests for it to make decisions and instead encourage more public debate and public decision making." Each of the above statements can be directly attributed to my _listening_ to the arguments and addressing them. Regardless, I have principles which I both personally hold, and that I feel responsible for upholding in order to preserve the environment the Board fulfils its function. I have striven hard throughout this discussion to communicate my views respectfully and thoroughly, while considering and addressing any opposing views. So, how about we try our collective best to avoid ad hominem attacks, and continue to discuss the issues at hand? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org