Andreas Jaeger wrote:
[...] So, in total we have at least three different angels
I like that sentence ;-) (You probably meant angles.)
[...] openSUSE Server Media: [...] openSUSE LTS: [...]
Frankly speaking, I think these targets are unrealistic. We would like to have more people contributing to openSUSE in general - if we create another project that requires significant manpower over many years to become a real success, I don't think openSUSE will really benefit from it, certainly not in the short term. I doubt anyway that there would be enough resources right now to pull this off (this concern has already been mentioned by others). I think some people underestimate what it means and what effort it requires to support software for a relatively long time. Ubuntu doesn't have an Enterprise version lurking in the background, that's why I think an LTS version makes sense for them. For Redhat/Fedora, there's the CentOS project but as far as I know no LTS project.
openSLES * I see no direct benefit from the packaging work for this to openSUSE distribution itself. * If the team uses technology from openSUSE, like the Build Service, the engineers might improve this technology and therefore improve the tools. * Indirectly, this might give openSLES/openSUSE LTS additional users that then become SLES or openSUSE users later - or work in the Build Service with benefits for openSUSE.
I can't speak for others, but I can explain how it works in our company right now (see also my previous email sent on Sunday): We use CentOS on the compute clusters, an Enterprise Linux on important servers and workstations, and Fedora on the desktop machines. In this way, we get stable servers with support as required, a stable compute cluster (same OS kept for more or less the lifetime of the cluster), and up-to-date applications like OpenOffice etc for desktop machines (OS updated, say, every one or two years). This has worked out quite nicely over the years, and I know that other companies in our line of business have a similar setup right now. If you follow this concept, then openSUSE could also benefit from an openSLES distribution - the availability of such a free Enterprise Linux based on SUSE technology might be quite attractive. I think it would also require only relatively moderate resources as opposed to the other two projects mentioned above. Of course, there are also some arguments against openSLES - I therefore appreciate your effort to structure this entire discussion somewhat! Greetings from London, Thomas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org