On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 01:21:15 +0100, Sascha Manns wrote:
The basic Question from Henne was, why we're making the german Newsletter into a new place. The answer is the same like anyone (maybe Henne) decided to publish his stuff not in lizards. Anyone can choose what is the best for any contribution. In the Newsletter case it is a very big plus for open-slx, that i can set as copyrightowner a CC License.
But part of this discussion (and the root of it from what I've read) is about the opensuse.org site licensing under CC rather than GFDL - and I'd agree with Vincent, that if there is a "requirement" to give up your rights to content you create (rather than content you consume for redistribution, which again, was my read of what this issue was all about), then that's something that should be addressed in and of itself.
In the official Infrastructure i give up my rights to Novell and can't choose my prefered License.
So to clarify, are you not asking those who contribute to the opensuse.org site to give up their preferred license to be included in your edition of OWN? How is that different?
The Question about why an new Platform, i don't answer. If you have talked with Rupert, then you know the answer. And no more discussion of this point is needed.
I raise the point because the issue you raise is part of a bigger issue, which is why a separate platform that divides the community rather than working with the community and existing infrastructure? I don't claim to fully understand the issues or even the outcome of my own discussions with Rupert (because that is, I think, an ongoing discussion). It seems it would be in both the openSUSE project's best interests and in open-slx's best interests to work to unify the community. There is a difference between Henne writing a personal blog and the distribution of your newsletter (as I see it) consumes content from opensuse.org sources. Henne's blog, OTOH, is his own thoughts on things. That (again in my view) is something entirely different from what you're doing with OWN. OWN is a representation of something official from the community (an aggregation of relevant news). Henne's blog (as far as I know) isn't positioned as such so the two aren't easily equatable. There's a world of difference between someone's personal blog (which the link you provided to all appearances seems to me to be) and a newsletter that is focused on openSUSE exclusively. So let's make sure we're not drawing false equivalencies here in order to support a point or an idea. I also have to disagree that no more discussion about the open-slx platform is needed - I honestly think this is a serious issue that shouldn't be just swept under the rug. Community cohesion is important to the project (or should be), and if the community fragments, then the reasons for that fragmentation MUST be understood and - if possible - be addressed. To my view, saying "no more discussion of this point is needed" is effectively trying to sweep the discussion under the rug, regardless of the consequences to the community as a whole. The way you're coming across to me here is that you're unconcerned with community fragmentation, and that does concern me as a member of the project and as a user of openSUSE. We're all here with the same goal in mind: to advance openSUSE. Let's not work at cross-purposes, and make sure we're all working together to achieve that goal. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org