-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Hertweck wrote:
Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
On Tuesday 16 January 2007 22:54, Martin Schlander wrote:
2) Bleeding edge vs. stability: [...] I don't want openSUSE to become Debian Sarge, but I think we could move the balance a little bit towards stability and still fulfill our obligations wrt. to hardening stuff for SLE and without requiring very many resources either. [...] I disagree on this. If anyone wants stability, there's SLED10. And it has fast update servers too, no problems with mirrors or speed.
An openSUSE release will feel like an "old baby" if it has old components (kernel, X, KDE etc). Looks bad.
I disagree with you and fully agree with Martin's opinion quoted above. SLED is not an alternative to openSUSE. I think the release should focus a bit more on stability than cutting-edge software. With the build service in place and available software repositories for KDE, kernel, etc., you can always upgrade your stable release to newer components if you like. But forcing everybody right from the beginning (release) to use cutting-edge versions of software is not the way to go! You should realize that openSUSE is not a playground and test bed for freaks but used on many production systems, for instance in small and mid-sized companies, or even at home - those installations are actually used for work and have to function!
I agree with the latter, too. The Build Service repositories offer a broad choice of bleeding-edge versions of many packages and subsystems. That should be the place for the latest X.org, KDE, GNOME, Apache, PHP, etc... A sane balance is what is needed. Not too old stuff, but not too risky either. Also wrt the reputation of openSUSE (which is very important in order to get customers for SLED/SLES IMO). If openSUSE is too broken, there won't be as much confidence in SLED/SLES as if openSUSE was really solid (but still shipping recent versions of packages.. though maybe the the very latest bleeding edge release candidate). cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <pascal.bleser@skynet.be> <guru@unixtech.be> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFtSh+r3NMWliFcXcRAqY1AJ9z3GQTDU9+vWBaUrfzhDH4jdfiHgCeOqLK 8gSIWzjFZQa0iqWr0Urdc4s= =r8dE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org