I do not think anybody gets sour here... People just try to clarify
certain principles.
Jos statement about meritocracy was a little bit over the top... for
exactly the reasons that Thomas pointed out. (prior contribution to
the project is not always necessary in order to get into it).
defining what contribution means is totally crucial.
Getting exactly the same approach as the kernel may be too restrictive
and can prove counter productive, my opinion and why not against the
principles that opensuse already has (see openfate mechanism).
We risk to alienate the community if we start to apply the rule: the
ones who do the work know better.
A simple look into the history of social organisation and you will see
that this route does not lead to meritocracy.
This rule gave good results for the kernel due to high specialisation
needed to understand, use and contribute to it. The same may apply for
servers.
Having that in mind we still need to remember that we depend on
sponsors and always will.
Our sponsor at the moment is interest in the server market more than
the desktop one. That is a certitude.
This makes a lot of the people in our community frustrated and they
are leaving towards other distros that is a consequence.
regards,
Alin
2010/9/27 Karsten König
Am Montag, 27. September 2010, 12:30:04 schrieb Henne Vogelsang:
Hi,
On 9/26/10 11:09 AM, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
On 24/09/10 10:28, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
[...] openSUSE is, like all Free Software communities, a meritocracy. You EARN the right to speak up (influence) by proving yourself valuable.
I find your statement quite ironical. You haven't contributed to SuSE or openSUSE in the past (at least not directly), now you are being *paid* to work on Linux (openSUSE) the whole day, and you have been *appointed* the community manager. You get the picture?
I don't. He has contributed since he got hired right? That's the only thing that counts. Who cares if he get's payed, by whom, as long as he contributes right?
Henne
You can't understand people get a sour taste here? We are trying to get people to contribute for 'free' to opensuse and overnight somebody gets hired who didn't have big ties before and becomes a key person in opensuse community.
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