On 17.06.2015 16:10, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
On 06/17/2015 02:35 PM, Stephan Kulow wrote:
On 17.06.2015 13:05, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
Given that the decision to open up the SLE sources didn't come overnight and people iniside SUSE probably knew about it for quite some time and apparently already made up their mind makes the title and content of Richard's presentation dishonest at best. There never would be an open-ended evaluation, a weighing of pros and cons with the involvement of all stakeholders of openSUSE, rather the future is already decided and those who disagree can fork their own distro. If you're wondering where the 6 weeks after the presentation you're complaining there was no discussion? You must have missed the mailing lists in great.
Just because most don't care as much as you you do doesn't make the discussions less open.
Greetings, Stephan
Hi Stephan,
Personally I have the utmost respect for you and your work. I have to agree 100% with Guido here. I think that the timing of your announcement (that you will only work for the SLES based distribution) is the problem here. You announced this before going on vacation, which means at the start of the mailing list discussion (and only a few days after Richard's presentation). And this announcement left no real choice for the community: we *have to* endorse this new distribution and accept the name openSUSE given to it, else there will not be a release (or we will need to find a new release team to do so in the future).
That might be your perception, but it's not true. I waited 3 weeks after OSC15 to present how it would possibly look like after it was clear that many liked the idea in general but had no idea about the details. And that I don't believe in Factory snapshots is something I said before, not just now. But if a SLE based openSUSE would actually work is something that is still to be proven - so I actually started to set it up instead of talking bullshit and send a progress report before going to vacation. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org