[opensuse-project] Packman for Tumbleweed (was: Announcing openSUSE Tumbleweed project)

On 2010-11-30 22:31:15 (+0100), Guido Berhoerster wrote:

* Greg KH [2010-11-30 21:53]:

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On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:37:01PM +0200, İsmail Dönmez wrote:

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On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Greg KH wrote: [skipping legal mambo jambo, possibly disagreed part]

(but on a side note, Greg, please stop assuming we package illegal stuff)

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I don't think it will be very hard to get Packman (or any other repo) that handles the codes up and working on Tumbleweed.

If we can get Packman to support this as a repository that would be the most ideal solution. Nothing fancy, just need a handful of people helping Packman project.

This is probably getting off-topic here, but is there a pointer to how someone can help out the packman project to set up something like this? I see their general "send us email" from the front page, is that all, or do they need something else for something as small as this would entail?

Helping us out can be done in a few ways: * maintaining packages: help is always welcome there, especially for more experienced packagers, * provide us with build servers: just requires running a single init script to be an OBS build slave -- but we will only do so with people we know, as being root on such a build host gives the ability to crack packages and include trojan horses or other malware in them

Posting to packman@links2linux.de should be appropriate.

Correct, anyone can get in touch with us on the mailing-list Guide cited above (no registration needed), or on IRC (on Freenode, #packman).

The reason why Packman does not build against Factory is, as I understand it, that continuous rebuilds would put too much load on the build system and that would probably apply to your proposed project as well.

Actually we *do* build against Factory (*snapshot*). Indeed, continuous rebuilds would kill our infrastructure, as we don't have that much build power (we do have a few servers though, thanks to the support of a very few individuals, and thanks to a sponsor). To be precise, we build a subset of our packages for Factory (and even for SLE11SP1), typically those that you can't find anywhere except on Packman (mad, xine, ffmpeg, ...). http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/packman/suse/factory/ http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/packman/suse/sle_11_sp1/ We would indeed be highly interested in also building for Tumbleweed, at the very least that "minimal" set of codec packages, and potentially more than that. I personally agree that packages that could also be on build.opensuse.org should go there instead of being in the Packman repository but, unfortunately, not everyone in the Packman team agrees. On a side note, we use the openSUSE Build Service too, with our own instance, but it is linked with build.opensuse.org, which means that as soon as a dependency changes on build.o.o, a rebuild is triggered on our instance. This means that, exactly as with Factory, if Tumbleweed is built on build.o.o, rebuilds on Packman would be automatic. cheers -- -o) Pascal Bleser /\\ http://opensuse.org -- I took the green pill _\_v FOSDEM XI: 5 + 6 Feb 2011, http://fosdem.org