There seem to be a number of issues in play at the same time here: What to do (or not do) with the board? Who did what, and were they in the wrong (seemingly, least important at the moment)? How do we move this forward towards resolution? And last, but not least: there aren't enough volunteers for whatever decision we make - so let's not make a hasty decision. To the last of those, there are plenty of volunteers. I'm one of them. There are people, like me, who care deeply about this community and the brand as a whole. It's true, we haven't volunteered in the past (myself included). To be honest - we assumed that things were in good hands and that they had all the help they needed. Perhaps this was an incorrect assumption, I can't really tell just yet. If you need volunteers - count me in. I know others who would be equally interested. That should be the least of the reasons not to resolve the other remaining issues. -Chase Chase Crum | Sr. Architect SUSE | Professional Services | Consulting e: chase.crum@suse.com | w: suse.com/consulting m: (918) 568-2808 #ChangeStartsRightHere #DareToBeDifferent 0250 A137 772C B90F 79C4 5D53 1611 DE08 CDE2 B49A -----Original Message----- From: Richard Brown <rbrown@suse.de> To: opensuse-project@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse-project] Re: Call for a No-Confidence Vote - Re- Election of the openSUSE board Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 12:31:01 +0100 On Fri, 2020-03-20 at 12:02 +0100, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 20/03/2020 à 11:34, Richard Brown a écrit :
Without a Board, that bridge would be gone.
of course, but I don't see why there should be no board. until now the candidates have always been sufficient
We have _barely_ had enough candidates for any election for the past 5 years, and those are elections where we need to fill 2 or 3 seats. And that is even with lots of existing contributors directly pushing people for running for positions. If the No Confidence vote passes, we need to elect a whole board, that means we will need to fill 5 seats. That means needing at least *double* the number of candidates for the election to be meaningful. Anything less than 10 candidates gives a 50% chance that someone will get a seat just for volunteering, making the election rather pointless. If the vote for no confidence passes, I would expect none of the existing Board members would ever want to run again - this experience has been traumatic for them. The recently resigned Board members would also be uneligable for running according to our rules https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_rules#Resignation "Any person who has resigned from the Board or has been removed from the Board is not eligible for nomination or appointment for or during the next Board election period. " So, just look at the maths. Lets assume previously failed Board candidates would like to take this opportunity for another stab at the role. If you took every Board election candidate who didn't get elected since 2015 and they ALL ran to fill this new Board, you'd have a grand total of 9 people. When you consider deaths and depatures from the project that number becomes more like 4, maybe 5 volunteers. So you'll need at least another 5, ideally 6, totally fresh, never- interested-in-the-Board before volunteers to step up to run as Candidates. And do you really think the Project is going to find that many volunteers when everyone can read this mailinglist to see how much sh*t the Project gave it's current Board? Imagining a world where I might be interested in such a role, you couldn't pay me to make me volunteer to run for the Board after recent events. We need to be doing everything we can to cheer up, support, and help the volunteers we have in that critical job for the Project. Continuing the idea of this vote of no confidence with an assumption we'd ever have enough candidates to replace the current Board is foolish in my view. And I don't care if expressing that view makes me unpopular - you wont be seeing me running for election. -- Chase Crum | Sr. Architect SUSE | Professional Services | Consulting e: chase.crum@suse.com | w: suse.com/consulting m: (918) 568-2808 #ChangeStartsRightHere #DareToBeDifferent 0250 A137 772C B90F 79C4 5D53 1611 DE08 CDE2 B49A -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org