Hi! Just to add to the discussion: have you already thought about Zulip? Julia community is moving from Slack to Zulip and the experience has been very good so far. Furthermore, Zulip is 100% open source, with Apache 2 license. Best regards, Ronan
Em 17 de jul de 2020, à(s) 20:44, Stasiek Michalski <hellcp@opensuse.org> escreveu:
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 01:05, Maximilian Trummer <maximilian@trummer.xyz> wrote:
It's not a good choice for FOSS communities anyway: https://sneak.berlin/20200220/discord-is-not-an-acceptable-choice-for-free-s...
Discord is sadly still the best option for communities though, IRC, Matrix, Telegram, Slack, RocketChat have various other issues that prevent us from running them exclusively. Matrix is probably the next best thing, but still nowhere near close to it. Let me break it down.
Matrix: There is no easy way to manage a group of channels, which makes dealing with any misconduct and subsequent moderation difficult to do [1]
Telegram: There is no easy way to promote a group of channels, which makes a lot of communication very off-topic, regardless of the channel topic. + what was mentioned for Matrix
IRC: If we ignore the IRCv3, which still isn't ready, IRC doesn't offer us functionality that most users expect from a modern chat protocol, like edits, direct image uploads, presence, server side log etc. + what was mentioned for Telegram
Slack & RocketChat: Corporate solutions, meaning they do not have a "network effect" of other aforementioned solutions. People rarely use a chat application for single purpose, unless their livelyhood depends on it. This is something that prevents both from being considered as a communication method for communities.
We actually had to deal with the ongoing spam issue on Matrix, so I can guarantee you it would only get worse if any of the above reached the popularity of the openSUSE Discord.
Quite obviously we had some spam issues in openSUSE Discord, which made us deploy appropriate tools to deal with the issue. Due to the structure of other chat apps, solutions similar to that are not possible, and I can see how people could easily abuse that.
So, unless you have better ideas, I think we might need to keep using Discord ;)
LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world
[1] We kinda have a solution, which is Matrix <-> Discord bridge, which allows us to do some of the things Discord does and Matrix itself doesn't provide, but as you can guess it kinda requires Discord.
Matrix developers are planning some ways to deal with this in spec, but there is nothing concrete yet in the spec, so we will have to wait for that to happen too.
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