We have to ask ourselves here if these "desktop wars" you talk of is something that should keep defining what openSUSE is and how it works now and in the future, or if this whole discussion is about given direction to openSUSE and thus making it a successful operating system. Now my answer might differ from yours in this, but as far as I understand, people very much agree that the status quo is not satisfying, and that the root problem is the lack of focus and direction in openSUSE.
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Besides that, when seeing how much energy is poured into delivering different UIs on the same system, it simply makes me cry. And it makes me wonder how much longer this is sustainable. It might come as a surprise, but it's completely braindead to support two (or more) full UI stacks, with different applications, desktop interfaces and all that. It's in my not so humble opinion one of the major weak points of most Linux-based Operating Systems out there.
My take is a bit different: it's evolution in progress. We get the best UI by having multiple (more than 2) UIs competing with each other. Some die out because they aren't up to the standard of the others. Some get stronger by "borrowing" good ideas from the others. With a bit of wastefulness (evolution is very wasteful) we all get a better UI to use, and a constantly evolving and developing UI. So I say encourage the competition between KDE & Gnome as we all benefit. David -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org