On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:57:35 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I personally prefer to redirect the user rather than do the move for them - that way the user learns *and* has to take extra steps (which to me means they will try harder the next time they post so they don't have to do *more* work).
:-)
I would have no idea on how to move a thread using NNTP; I would have to repost.
Indeed, that's all one can do in NNTP - even in INN, making the necessary changes in the database would be difficult, and doing so would wreak havoc on people's high message pointers in their readers.
Perhaps what is needed is a read-only nntp group with quick help tips such as what is appropriate on each forum/group, how to post, etc. I think I saw some tips (I'm talking out of year-old memories) on the web interface, but I don't see them on NNTP.
We try to make the names pretty self-descriptive; many newsreaders can read a description field (it's optional in the RFC as I recall) that gives a text description of the group. I don't know if the server we use can present that, but I think it can.
Ah... I discovered another problem. My problem, I mean. I was just checking the "howto" group, to see if what I said above is already there. At the moment I'm off-line on my laptop, but earlier I made thunderbird to download contents, limited to 60 days old messages... meaning that the howto group is almost empty. I have to define individual settings for some groups
Yes, most people's message lists are limited by the client rather than the server; we are set to expire old articles when the spool fills up, but we're nowhere near filling the spool up from what I have been told.
I understand. It happens in mail lists, so it will happen on forums, which are perhaps more fragmented. But I think that accessing via nntp those labels or tips are missing.
I think most of our misposted threads actually originate from the web interface; our NNTP users seem to be a lot more saavy when it comes to selecting a group. You can tell a web-initiated post in an NNTP client by looking at the signature block - if it includes a link to the forum on the web interface, that's where it came from. You'll also note the user agent header shows that it came through the vBulletin USENET gateway (I think that's the string, it's pretty clear). The NNTP-posting-host header will also show the IP address for forums.novell.com.
That particular group is fed from an RSS feed - that's why the information is linked rather than posted; we post just what's in the RSS feed information.
Perhaps the announcements should be gated from the mail list posts.
That may be an option. In talking with Kim (the technical admin), he tells me that the ML gateway uses a single e-mail address, so I'm wondering how the original posting information is preserved. We're probably going to set up a test with one of the test MLs to see more how it works, once we've got our vBulletin upgrade completed.
I haven't seen a guide like this myself - what do you think would be useful topics to include in such a guide?
Dunno - I'm an absolute novice on forums. I've never posted there, as far as I recall. And via nntp, not yet. When I have spare time I'm off-line, which means that, even if I know the answer for something, it will reach very late.
The place I'd have people start is with the forums FAQ - that answers a lot of questions already and would provide a good foundation to start from. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org