Le 21/11/2014 12:36, Henne Vogelsang a écrit :
Hey,
On 20.11.2014 21:57, Roger Luedecke wrote:
Why
I can tell you why. It'll not be a nice thing to hear for most of us...
I don't agree entirely. searching to have more order send many people out. more below
Why do your bug reports go unanswered? Because we don't have enough people to support the amount of packages we ship.
bugzilla needs enhancement. Not to say it's easy. I think some more people could be allowed to give help, at least sorting bugs and helping bug writers to better make the report. Some kind of (internal?) doc is needed, for example to know to who assign a bug
Why is the wiki a mess? Because we don't have enough people maintaining it.
it's there than I most desagree. A wiki *have to be a mess*. Every body have to be able to write there without "not in subject", "have to be reviewed" etc. I used to contribute a lot and was completely disgusted by the last revamp some years ago. Google is good enough to find the data in the mess. This don't mean people can't make order in the mess, but only on a voluntary basis. SDB and HOTOS are a good place to order things if possible
Why is our documentation often that bad? Like the Live_USB_stick article. Because everyone just adds whatever he just found out to it and never looks back. No one makes sure that this beast stays recent, readable, comprehensible. People just dump their ideas and run off. No one feels responsible.
as every where in the web. And our documentation is far from bad. I use it very often and very often with success. sure, it would be nice to have a writer's team to write a manual for each distro version, but this is only a dream.
Why do those paper-cut issues slip through? Because every one who does something for this distribution is neck deep in putting the open leg fractures in splints.
this is not that important. openSUSE is still one of the first choice distribution. I see this (packman) more as a permanent chapter to add to the release notes. the release notes themselve are very difficult to write because it's hard to get the info from the devs (not a rant, we are all short of time, just a fact)
Why is our "marketing" often not to the point? If you simplify there are 2 big things we do (...)
sure, but also the marketting team have a complex situation: gather informations and write papers at least. The result is not that bad. Only one people full time (not even sure, is still Jos in charge?)
Why don't we add tons of 'easy' features to our distribution? Why is our infrastructure outdated and largely unmaintained?
Why? The answer is always the same: It's too much to do for not enough people.
This has been a spiral for years now. We have too much on our plate. That's why we struggle to do even do the basics for everything. That's why nothing is very polished. That's why next to no new people join and a lot of people leave.
I was thinking french people where the only one to bash themselves, but looks like there are not alone. :-) Henne, you are one of the most valuable openSUSE member and you make a splendid job. openSUSE is, may be, the most polished distribution in the world! and I was last week next Debian, Fedora and ubuntu fans, and I can say my booth was far the smarter our booth: http://dodin.info/piwigo/picture.php?/106543-dsc02518_25029/category/5675 Debian (left) and Fedora (right) http://dodin.info/piwigo/picture.php?/106544-dsc02519_4735/category/5675 Debian goodies where for sale when ours are free and the second day there where nobody else than us... what you describe is the life. We need more flexibility, not more stress :-) and let me thanks also everybody in the SUSE team. It's a thing I write in the papers, we have a sponsor extremely involved, including in free time, and it's a great strenght jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org