On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:42:17 +0100, Sascha Manns wrote:
I want to know one thing. You can do all the great things you do, for all the very well thought out reasons you have, inside the openSUSE project, on openSUSE infrastructure with openSUSE branding. Why don't you? Why you're blogging in http://blog.hennevogel.de/ instead of lizards?
Where any individual blogs isn't the question, Sascha - that's very different from creating an entire portal that in effect chops up the community into smaller pieces, duplicates efforts, and adds complexity where it doesn't necessarily need to be. I have some concerns about this myself - and I know Rupert knows my concerns because I've talked about him in the context of the open-slx community portal's forums that are being set up. As a member of staff in the openSUSE forums, I've been concerned about this duplication of efforts - for example, in OSF, we provide a German set of forums. There's also other German forums (linuxclub.de is one I know about), so I have to seriously wonder what benefit there is to creating yet another German set of forums on the open-slx portal. Doing so divides the expertise and makes it more difficult for people looking for help to decide where to go. That would seem to me (from my vantage point) to create unnecessary complexity and further divide a community we should ALL be working to unite rather than to further fragment. Reducing duplication was one of the drivers (as I understand it) behind merging several different sets of forums that provided assistance to users using openSUSE. Looking at the Fedora community or the Ubuntu community, for example, they each seem to have a single set of forums, which provides them both with a higher degree of community cohesion. I don't think I've ever seen anyone ask the question "which forums should I go to if I have questions about [Ubuntu|Fedora]?" (This doesn't mean there aren't third-party forums, but I have never, ever seen a reference to a post in a third- party Ubuntu forum, for example) But I could certainly see that happening here if the community doesn't come together to provide that (ideally) single place to go for information and interaction. open-slx has done some great things for the openSUSE project, but like Henne, I have a really hard time understanding why all this duplicate effort is taking place rather than leveraging the existing infrastructure as much as possible, and answering that question with "why don't you blog on lizards.opensuse.org?" doesn't really address the underlying issue or concern. It is, as Henne said, a pretty straightforward question, and either the answer is straightforward or it isn't. If the answer isn't straightforward, then I would ask that rather than answering the question with another question, you just say "it isn't that simple" - or better yet - trust that we can discuss the issue in an intelligent way (and don't worry about the complexity, after all, the project members and board deal with a high degree of complexity in a lot of different ways) and come to a resolution that everyone benefits from. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org