Hi, Using the latest packet writing patch & kernel 2.4.20 i've gotten a situation where you can create invisible directories...! cdrwtool -d /dev/cdrom0 -q pktsetup /dev/pktcdvd /dev/cdrom0 mount -t udf /dev/pktcdvd /mnt/cdrw cd /mnt/cdrw mkdir test cd test mkdir a mv a b ls -la no b! :) renaming files works fine -- Nigel Kukard (Chief Executive Officer) Lando Technologies Africa (Pty) Ltd nigel@lando.co.za www.lando.co.za Tel: 083 399 5822 Fax: 086 1100036 Hoheisen Park Bellville, Cape Town National Internet Service Provider The best language to use is the language that was designed for what you want to use it for - 1997 ===================================================================== Disclaimer ---------- The contents of this message and any attachments are intended solely for the addressee's use and may be legally privileged and/or confidential information. This message may not be retained, distributed, copied or used if you are not he addressee of this message. If this message was sent to you in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then destroy the message and any copies thereof. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message may be personal to the sender and is not that of Lando Technologies Africa or any of it's subsideries, associated companies or principals and is therefore not endorsed by any of the Lando groups of companies. Due to e-maill communication being insecure, Lando groups of companies do not guarantee confidentiality, security, accuracy or performance of the e-mail. Any liability for viruses is excluded to the fullest extent.