[opensuse-packaging] ATTN: The set of default installed packages at build time is to be reduced
Hi, as a heads-up (and for those curious why your package may be / has been touched) there is an upcoming change in the set of packages installed by default in the build environments. This can affect your packages BuildRequires as well as requirements of pre-/post-install scripts. The exact set of packages to be removed is not yet set in stone, but expect the following to go: - flex, bison - gdbm-devel - ncurses-devel - libzio and the following that may affect pre-/post-install scripts (but in general shouldn't): - pwdutils + its dependencies (openldap*, openssl, cyrus-sasl, ...) - bind-libs, bind-utils - cvs - e2fsprogs - libnscd - unzip and debugging tools such as - procps + friends - strace - vim In general we will take care of required package updates (this is why your package is being touched). With best regards, Richard. -- Richard Guenther <rguenther@suse.de> Novell / SUSE Labs SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nuernberg - AG Nuernberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Richard Guenther wrote:
Hi,
as a heads-up (and for those curious why your package may be / has been touched) there is an upcoming change in the set of packages installed by default in the build environments. This can affect your packages BuildRequires as well as requirements of pre-/post-install scripts.
The exact set of packages to be removed is not yet set in stone,
Now we did it. The following packages are no longer installed in the default build environment: - bind-libx - bind-utils - bison - cyrus-sasl - e2fsprogs - flex - gdbm-devel - gpm - klogd - libcom_err - libnscd - module-init-tools - ncurses-devel - openldap2-client - openssl - procinfo - procps - psmisc - pwdutils - rcs - strace - tcpd - unzip - vim - zlib-devel (expect libbz2-devel to go also) Richard. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org
Hi, On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 at 15:22, Richard Guenther wrote:
Now we did it. The following packages are no longer installed in the default build environment:
- vim
can we have that back, please, at least when the "build" command is invoked manually? It was added on public request many moons ago, to simplify debugging within the chroot environment. cu Reinhard --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org
On 30-03-2007 at 12:38, Reinhard Max <max@suse.de> wrote: Hi,
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 at 15:22, Richard Guenther wrote:
Now we did it. The following packages are no longer installed in the default build environment:
- vim
can we have that back, please, at least when the "build" command is invoked manually? It was added on public request many moons ago, to simplify debugging within the chroot environment.
I don't really see a big need for that package, as if I chroot to it, I can always manually just add that package when I need it. I prefer having the base set as small as possible, as it speeds up the generation of multiple packagaes by each packet not needed. I'd say if somebody REALLY needs vim 'always', he can add it to his own build config and let that package be installed. Dominique TMF is a global management and accounting outsourcing firm with 72 offices in 56 countries and over 2,000 professionals (February 2007). TMF is expanding rapidly throughout the world. Learn more about our unique network and our services and visit our website at www.tmf-group.com. The information contained in this e-mail communication is confidential and solely intended for the person to whom it is addressed. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to notify the sender and to destroy the original e-mail communication. TMF is neither liable for the correct and complete transmission of the information contained in this e-mail communication nor for any delay in its receipt. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been checked for the presence of computer viruses. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, Reinhard Max wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 at 15:22, Richard Guenther wrote:
Now we did it. The following packages are no longer installed in the default build environment:
- vim
can we have that back, please, at least when the "build" command is invoked manually? It was added on public request many moons ago, to simplify debugging within the chroot environment.
The consensus was that we add a -debug switch to have extra packages installed. Richard. -- Richard Guenther <rguenther@suse.de> Novell / SUSE Labs SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nuernberg - AG Nuernberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org
On 2007-03-30 11:58:24 +0200, Richard Guenther wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, Reinhard Max wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 at 15:22, Richard Guenther wrote:
Now we did it. The following packages are no longer installed in the default build environment:
- vim
can we have that back, please, at least when the "build" command is invoked manually? It was added on public request many moons ago, to simplify debugging within the chroot environment.
The consensus was that we add a -debug switch to have extra packages installed.
build --extra-packs=vim darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org
Hi, On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
can we have that back, please, at least when the "build" command is invoked manually? It was added on public request many moons ago, to simplify debugging within the chroot environment.
The consensus was that we add a -debug switch to have extra packages installed.
build --extra-packs=vim
Yes, it can be done already now, but there are some more which would be convenient for chroot, and it's all about convenience :). So, the plan was to have such a list to make the usual getpac-build-chroot-fiddle_around cycle easy, so a single switch for the build script (or even when detecting if run from a terminal) makes sense. Ciao, Michael. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org
Michael Matz wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
build --extra-packs=vim
Yes, it can be done already now, but there are some more which would be convenient for chroot, and it's all about convenience :). So, the plan was to have such a list to make the usual getpac-build-chroot-fiddle_around cycle easy, so a single switch for the build script (or even when detecting if run from a terminal) makes sense.
I found an undocumented feature of the build script: If you set the BUILD_EXTRA_PACKS env. variable to the list of packages you want to install, it works just like --extra-packs. So you can set this once on shell startup and use 'build' like before. hth, Michal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org
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