On Mon, Apr 18, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Olaf Hering wrote:

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What are the options to uninstall a removed package? With SR#390485 the meta pkg "ffmpeg-devel" was removed. There is no package which would be a good place for the usual 'Obsoletes/Provides'. So I wonder how to run the 'zypper rm ffmpeg-devel' during 'zypper dup'.

Not sure I understand the question. Is package currently installed (rpm -q)? If yes, what is the problem with removing it?

I have not tried to simulate this in practice, what would happen is: If ffmpeg-devel is installed it Requires libavcodec-devel = version. If ffmpeg is updated to the next version then 'libavcodec-devel = version', required by ffmpeg-devel, does not exist anymore. As a result the update of the entire ffmpeg related packages is blocked. Olaf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

How about the use of "Obsoletes: ffmpeg-devel" in one or all of the affected packages? No extra hassle this way. - Yamaban -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

On Mon, 2016-04-18 at 12:46 +0200, Olaf Hering wrote:

On Mon, Apr 18, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:

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https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/openSUSE:Factory/_prod uct/obsoletepackages.inc?expand=1

Thanks.

How are packages entered there? Unrelated to ffmpeg-devel, 'zypper packages --orphaned' lists a few items which should be part of that list.

It's auto-generated based on 'released produced to TW upgrade path'. I don't think we have a TW(Random)-to-TW upgrade test case. Cheers, Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

On Mon, May 02, Olaf Hering wrote:

Is there a way to add known-broken packages manually?

If such list of orphaned packages gets created anyway, the following list of packages from the past 9 months: zypper packages --orphaned | awk '{print $5 }' | xargs rpm -q --qf '%{DISTRIBUTION} %{NAME}\n' | grep -v debug | sort | awk '/ Factory / { print $3 }' boost-license1_58_0 boost-license1_59_0 libboost_atomic1_58_0 libboost_atomic1_59_0 libboost_chrono1_58_0 libboost_chrono1_59_0 libboost_container1_58_0 libboost_container1_59_0 libboost_context1_58_0 libboost_context1_59_0 libboost_coroutine1_58_0 libboost_coroutine1_59_0 libboost_date_time1_58_0 libboost_date_time1_59_0 libboost_filesystem1_58_0 libboost_filesystem1_59_0 libboost_graph1_58_0 libboost_graph1_59_0 libboost_iostreams1_58_0 libboost_iostreams1_59_0 libboost_locale1_58_0 libboost_locale1_59_0 libboost_log1_58_0 libboost_log1_59_0 libboost_math1_58_0 libboost_math1_59_0 libboost_program_options1_58_0 libboost_program_options1_59_0 libboost_python1_58_0 libboost_python1_59_0 libboost_random1_58_0 libboost_random1_59_0 libboost_regex1_58_0 libboost_regex1_59_0 libboost_serialization1_58_0 libboost_serialization1_59_0 libboost_signals1_58_0 libboost_signals1_59_0 libboost_system1_58_0 libboost_system1_59_0 libboost_test1_58_0 libboost_test1_59_0 libboost_thread1_58_0 libboost_thread1_59_0 libboost_timer1_58_0 libboost_timer1_59_0 libboost_wave1_58_0 libboost_wave1_59_0 libcamel-1_2-54 libdialog12 libdns161 libgdict-1_0-9 libgpaste4 libhdf5-11 libhdf5_hl11 libicu55_1 libicu55_1-ledata libicu56_1 libicu56_1-ledata libisc148 libisl13 libixion-0_10-0 liblmdb-0_9_16 libmicrohttpd11 libminiupnpc15 libnis1 libntfs-3g86 liborcus-0_10-0 libpoppler55 libpoppler56 libpoppler57 libpoppler58 libpsl0 libsgutils2-1_41-2 libsuitesparseconfig-4_4_5 libvpx2 Olaf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, May 03, Olaf Hering wrote: Thanks for extending the list.

boost-license1_58_0

Most or all of the boot packages lack the trailing "_0". Since _product does not allow submit requests, here are the remaining ones: i | @System | boost-license1_58_0 | 1.58.0-3.4 | noarch i | @System | boost-license1_59_0 | 1.59.0-4.1 | noarch i | @System | libboost_date_time1_58_0 | 1.58.0-3.4 | x86_64 i | @System | libboost_date_time1_59_0 | 1.59.0-4.1 | x86_64 i | @System | libboost_iostreams1_58_0 | 1.58.0-3.4 | x86_64 i | @System | libboost_iostreams1_59_0 | 1.59.0-4.1 | x86_64 i | @System | libboost_system1_58_0 | 1.58.0-3.4 | x86_64 i | @System | libboost_system1_59_0 | 1.59.0-4.1 | x86_64 i | @System | libboost_thread1_58_0 | 1.58.0-3.4 | x86_64 i | @System | libboost_thread1_59_0 | 1.59.0-4.1 | x86_64 i | @System | libdns160 | 9.10.2-9.1 | x86_64 i | @System | libisc148 | 9.10.2P4-13.1 | x86_64 i | @System | libpoppler52 | 0.33.0-1.3 | x86_64 i | @System | libpoppler56-debuginfo | 0.37.0-1.1 | x86_64 i | @System | libprocps4 | 3.3.10-3.2 | x86_64 i | @System | libsgutils2-1_40-2 | 1.40-1.2 | x86_64 i | @System | openldap2-client-debugsource | 2.4.42-18.2 | x86_64 Olaf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

On Sonntag, 22. Mai 2016, 21:20:37 wrote Olaf Hering:

On Fri, May 20, Olaf Hering wrote:

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Since _product does not allow submit requests, here are the remaining ones:

actually, it should work. -- Adrian Schroeter email: adrian@suse.de SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

On Montag, 23. Mai 2016, 09:37:29 wrote Andreas Schwab:

Adrian Schröter writes:

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On Sonntag, 22. Mai 2016, 21:20:37 wrote Olaf Hering:

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On Fri, May 20, Olaf Hering wrote:

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Since _product does not allow submit requests, here are the remaining ones:

actually, it should work.

But factory-auto always rejects them.

Shoot them ... ;) What is the given reason? -- Adrian Schroeter email: adrian@suse.de SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

On Mon, May 23, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:

and _product has no devel project... and I won't set one :)

Fix factory-auto instead so that others can contribute directly instead of bothering you via email. Olaf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:

On Mon, 2016-04-18 at 12:17 +0200, Olaf Hering wrote:

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What are the options to uninstall a removed package? […] So I wonder how to run the 'zypper rm ffmpeg-devel' during 'zypper dup'.

If ffmpeg-devel no longer exists in openSUSE:Factory, it is automatically added as a weakremoves() in the _product and 'zypper dup' takes care of removing it IFF it can be removed without breaking dependencies of other stuff on the system.

I haven't tested the exact case of of "ffmpeg-devel", but after DUPs we're regularly seeing the problem of previous-openSUSE-release packages still being installed, both in the supported one-version DUP case and, unsurprisingly, the unsupported two-or-more-versions DUP case (the latter often causes, unsurprisingly, all other kinds of problems). We're doing our DUPs with a (python-)fabric script; here is an incomplete list of packages we have encountered. Some might be cause be the mentioned two-version DUPs: ------------------------------ 8< ------------------------------ if release_after_dup == '13.1': _rm_if_installed("libblocxx6") # removes "limal", too. _rm_if_installed("libpng15-15") _rm_if_installed("libserf-1-0") _rm_if_installed("libyui-ncurses4") _rm_if_installed("libyui4") _rm_if_installed("limal") # should already be removed by this point, see above. _rm_if_installed("microcode_ctl") _rm_if_installed("yast2-mouse") _rm_if_installed("cpp47") _rm_if_installed("gcc47") _rm_if_installed("kernel-desktop") _rm_if_installed("libarchive12") _rm_if_installed("libcolord1") _rm_if_installed("libicu49") _rm_if_installed("libimobiledevice3") _rm_if_installed("libxtables9") _rm_if_installed("xtables-addons-kmp-default") _rm_if_installed("cantarell-fonts") _rm_if_installed("desktop-translations") _rm_if_installed("ghostscript-x11") _rm_if_installed("gxditview") _rm_if_installed("libX11-xcb1") _rm_if_installed("libXpm-tools") _rm_if_installed("libjpeg62") _rm_if_installed("libply-splash-core2") _rm_if_installed("libproxy1-config-gnome3") _rm_if_installed("ypbind") _rm_if_installed("yp-tools") _rm_if_installed("crda") _rm_if_installed("nfs-client") _rm_if_installed("nfsidmap") _rm_if_installed("wireless-tools") _rm_if_installed("wireless-regdb") _rm_if_installed("xorg-x11-libs") _rm_if_installed("bundle-lang-gnome-de") _rm_if_installed("bundle-lang-gnome-en") _rm_if_installed("bundle-lang-gnome-extras-de") _rm_if_installed("bundle-lang-gnome-extras-en") _rm_if_installed("gnome-icon-theme-extras") _rm_if_installed("fbset") _rm_if_installed("gsettings-backend-dconf") _rm_if_installed("gtk2-immodule-inuktitut") _rm_if_installed("gtk2-immodule-thai") _rm_if_installed("gtk2-immodule-vietnamese") _rm_if_installed("gtk3-immodule-amharic") _rm_if_installed("gtk3-immodule-inuktitut") _rm_if_installed("gtk3-immodule-thai") _rm_if_installed("gtk3-immodule-vietnamese") _rm_if_installed("nscd") _rm_if_installed("libXaw7") _rm_if_installed("libXmu6") _rm_if_installed("ntfs-3g") _rm_if_installed("libntfs-3g83") _rm_if_installed("libyui-ncurses-pkg4") if release_after_dup == '13.2': _rm_if_installed("cryptsetup-mkinitrd") _rm_if_installed("libgcrypt11") _rm_if_installed("libicu51_2") _rm_if_installed("libicu51_2-data") _rm_if_installed("libjson0") _rm_if_installed("libnl1") _rm_if_installed("libprocps1") _rm_if_installed("libyui-ncurses5") _rm_if_installed("libyui5") _rm_if_installed("ruby20") _rm_if_installed("gtk3-theming-engine-adwaita") _rm_if_installed("libplist1") _rm_if_installed("libupower-glib1") _rm_if_installed("libxkbcommon0") _rm_if_installed("gnome-icon-theme") _rm_if_installed("gtk2-metatheme-adwaita") _rm_if_installed("gtk3-metatheme-adwaita") _rm_if_installed("cantarell-fonts") _rm_if_installed("gcr-viewer") _rm_if_installed("gtk2-theming-engine-adwaita") _rm_if_installed("metatheme-adwaita-common") _rm_if_installed("yast2-x11") if release_after_dup == 'Leap_42.1': _rm_if_installed("branding-basedonopensuse") _rm_if_installed("bundle-lang-common-ar") _rm_if_installed("bundle-lang-common-en") _rm_if_installed("cryptsetup-mkinitrd") _rm_if_installed("dhcpcd") _rm_if_installed("grub2-branding-basedonopensuse") _rm_if_installed("libdirectfb-1_6-0") _rm_if_installed("libgcrypt11") _rm_if_installed("libicu51_2") _rm_if_installed("libicu51_2-data") _rm_if_installed("libimobiledevice4") _rm_if_installed("libjson0") _rm_if_installed("libmozjs185-1_0") _rm_if_installed("libplist1") _rm_if_installed("libprocps1") _rm_if_installed("libpyglib-gi-2_0-python2-0") _rm_if_installed("libudev0") _rm_if_installed("libupower-glib1") _rm_if_installed("libusbmuxd2") #redundant (removed with libplist1) _rm_if_installed("libyui-ncurses5") _rm_if_installed("libyui5") #redundant (libyui-ncurses5) _rm_if_installed("libzmq3") _rm_if_installed("pm-utils") _rm_if_installed("ruby20") _rm_if_installed("rubygem-fast_gettext") #redundant (ruby20) _rm_if_installed("rubygem-ruby-dbus") #redundant (ruby20) _rm_if_installed("suspend") #redundant (libgcrypt11) ------------------------------ >8 ------------------------------ Not all of these packages are caused by the problem the OP has; some are just packages we do not need or want on our old servers, so we remove them during DUP; however, as we do not track the reason for removal, I sadly can't tell which is which. (I DUPed a server from 13.1 to Leap today and at least the following 13.1 packages were still installed afterwards: branding-basedonopensuse bundle-lang-common-ar cryptsetup-mkinitrd dhcpcd grub2-branding-basedonopensuse libicu51_2 libicu51_2-data ruby20 rubygem-fast_gettext rubygem-ruby-dbus.) To detect such packages *after* a DUP, we do something like this since around openSUSE 11.x (example after a DUP to Leap): ------------------------------ 8< ------------------------------ rpm -qa --qf '%{name}-%{version} %{distribution}\n' | grep -v 'openSUSE[ _:]Leap[ _:]42.1' | grep -v '(none)' | sort ------------------------------ >8 ------------------------------ -- HTH Christopher 'm4z' Holm / 686f6c6d "We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart." --H. L. 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