18 Apr
2016
18 Apr
'16
11:17
What are the options to uninstall a removed package?
With SR#390485 the meta pkg "ffmpeg-devel" was removed. There is no
package which would be a good place for the usual 'Obsoletes/Provides'.
So I wonder how to run the 'zypper rm ffmpeg-devel' during 'zypper
dup'.
Olaf
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18 Apr
18 Apr
11:19
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Olaf Hering <olaf(a)aepfle.de> wrote:
What are the options to uninstall a removed package?
With SR#390485 the meta pkg "ffmpeg-devel" was removed. There is no
package which would be a good place for the usual 'Obsoletes/Provides'.
So I wonder how to run the 'zypper rm ffmpeg-devel' during 'zypper
dup'.
Not sure I understand the question. Is package currently installed
(rpm -q)? If yes, what is the problem with removing it?
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11:27
On Mon, Apr 18, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Olaf Hering
<olaf(a)aepfle.de> wrote:
I have not tried to simulate this in practice, what would happen is:
If ffmpeg-devel is installed it Requires libavcodec-devel = version.
If ffmpeg is updated to the next version then 'libavcodec-devel =
version', required by ffmpeg-devel, does not exist anymore.
As a result the update of the entire ffmpeg related packages is blocked.
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What are the options to uninstall a removed
package?
With SR#390485 the meta pkg "ffmpeg-devel" was removed. There is no
package which would be a good place for the usual 'Obsoletes/Provides'.
So I wonder how to run the 'zypper rm ffmpeg-devel' during 'zypper
dup'.
Not sure I understand the question. Is package currently installed
(rpm -q)? If yes, what is the problem with removing it?
11:40
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Olaf Hering <olaf(a)aepfle.de> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 18, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
Presumably newer version of ffmpeg-devel would require newer version
of libavcodec-devel that would exist at this point?
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Olaf Hering
<olaf(a)aepfle.de> wrote:
I have not tried to simulate this in practice, what would happen is:
If ffmpeg-devel is installed it Requires libavcodec-devel = version.
If ffmpeg is updated to the next version then 'libavcodec-devel =
version', required by ffmpeg-devel, does not exist anymore. What are the options to uninstall a removed
package?
With SR#390485 the meta pkg "ffmpeg-devel" was removed. There is no
package which would be a good place for the usual 'Obsoletes/Provides'.
So I wonder how to run the 'zypper rm ffmpeg-devel' during 'zypper
dup'.
Not sure I understand the question. Is package currently installed
(rpm -q)? If yes, what is the problem with removing it? As a result the update of the entire ffmpeg related
packages is blocked.
Olaf
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11:43
New subject: [opensuse-packaging] Re: how to uninstall a removed package?
How about the use of "Obsoletes: ffmpeg-devel" in one or all of the
affected packages? No extra hassle this way.
- Yamaban
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12:41
On Monday 2016-04-18 12:27, Olaf Hering wrote:
I have not tried to simulate this in practice, what would happen is:
If ffmpeg-devel is installed it Requires libavcodec-devel = version.
If ffmpeg is updated to the next version then 'libavcodec-devel =
version', required by ffmpeg-devel, does not exist anymore.
As a result the update of the entire ffmpeg related packages is blocked.
Apart from the weakremover thing (which only runs on dup),
what I did in cases like these is simply continue providing that -devel
for a while and placing it in a most-grabbing package:
libavdevice requires most of the av packages by linkage, so that is
the place I would add Obsoletes/Provides to.
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11:34
On Mon, 2016-04-18 at 12:17 +0200, Olaf Hering wrote:
What are the options to uninstall a removed package?
With SR#390485 the meta pkg "ffmpeg-devel" was removed. There is no
package which would be a good place for the usual
'Obsoletes/Provides'.
So I wonder how to run the 'zypper rm ffmpeg-devel' during 'zypper
dup'.
If ffmpeg-devel no longer exists in openSUSE:Factory, it is
automatically added as a weakremoves() in the _product and 'zypper dup'
takes care of removing it IFF it can be removed without breaking
dependencies of other stuff on the system.
This list is defined in
https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/openSUSE:Factory/_product/
obsoletepackages.inc?expand=1
Cheers,
Dominique
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11:46
On Mon, Apr 18, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:
Thanks.
How are packages entered there?
Unrelated to ffmpeg-devel, 'zypper packages --orphaned' lists a few
items which should be part of that list.
Olaf
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11:57
On Mon, 2016-04-18 at 12:46 +0200, Olaf Hering wrote:
On Mon, Apr 18, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar
wrote:
It's auto-generated based on 'released produced to TW upgrade path'. I
don't think we have a TW(Random)-to-TW upgrade test case.
Cheers,
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https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/openSUSE:Factory/_prod
uct/obsoletepackages.inc?expand=1
Thanks.
How are packages entered there?
Unrelated to ffmpeg-devel, 'zypper packages --orphaned' lists a few
items which should be part of that list.
2 May
2 May
20:50
On Mon, Apr 18, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:
On Mon, 2016-04-18 at 12:46 +0200, Olaf Hering wrote:
Is there a way to add known-broken packages manually?
Since some time three broken packages are reported during dup:
libhdf5-10
libhdf5_hl10
liborcus-0_10-0
File /usr/lib64/libhdf5.so.10.1.0
from install of
libhdf5-10-1.8.16-3.1.x86_64 (oss)
conflicts with file from package
libhdf5-11-1.8.16-1.1.x86_64 (@System)
File /usr/lib64/libhdf5_hl.so.10.0.2
from install of
libhdf5_hl10-1.8.16-3.1.x86_64 (oss)
conflicts with file from package
libhdf5_hl11-1.8.16-1.1.x86_64 (@System)
File /usr/lib64/liborcus-0.11.so.0.0.0
from install of
liborcus-0_11-0-0.11.0-2.2.x86_64 (oss)
conflicts with file from package
liborcus-0_10-0-0.11.0-1.2.x86_64 (@System)
File /usr/lib64/liborcus-mso-0.11.so.0.0.0
from install of
liborcus-0_11-0-0.11.0-2.2.x86_64 (oss)
conflicts with file from package
liborcus-0_10-0-0.11.0-1.2.x86_64 (@System)
File /usr/lib64/liborcus-parser-0.11.so.0.0.0
from install of
liborcus-0_11-0-0.11.0-2.2.x86_64 (oss)
conflicts with file from package
liborcus-0_10-0-0.11.0-1.2.x86_64 (@System)
File /usr/lib64/liborcus-spreadsheet-model-0.11.so.0.0.0
from install of
liborcus-0_11-0-0.11.0-2.2.x86_64 (oss)
conflicts with file from package
liborcus-0_10-0-0.11.0-1.2.x86_64 (@System)
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On Mon, Apr 18, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar
wrote:
Thanks.
How are packages entered there?
Unrelated to ffmpeg-devel, 'zypper packages --orphaned' lists a few
items which should be part of that list.
It's auto-generated based on 'released produced to TW upgrade path'. I
don't think we have a TW(Random)-to-TW upgrade test case.
3 May
3 May
09:26
On Mon, May 02, Olaf Hering wrote:
Is there a way to add known-broken packages manually?
If such list of orphaned packages gets created anyway, the following
list of packages from the past 9 months:
zypper packages --orphaned | awk '{print $5 }' | xargs rpm -q --qf
'%{DISTRIBUTION} %{NAME}\n' | grep -v debug | sort | awk '/ Factory / {
print $3 }'
boost-license1_58_0
boost-license1_59_0
libboost_atomic1_58_0
libboost_atomic1_59_0
libboost_chrono1_58_0
libboost_chrono1_59_0
libboost_container1_58_0
libboost_container1_59_0
libboost_context1_58_0
libboost_context1_59_0
libboost_coroutine1_58_0
libboost_coroutine1_59_0
libboost_date_time1_58_0
libboost_date_time1_59_0
libboost_filesystem1_58_0
libboost_filesystem1_59_0
libboost_graph1_58_0
libboost_graph1_59_0
libboost_iostreams1_58_0
libboost_iostreams1_59_0
libboost_locale1_58_0
libboost_locale1_59_0
libboost_log1_58_0
libboost_log1_59_0
libboost_math1_58_0
libboost_math1_59_0
libboost_program_options1_58_0
libboost_program_options1_59_0
libboost_python1_58_0
libboost_python1_59_0
libboost_random1_58_0
libboost_random1_59_0
libboost_regex1_58_0
libboost_regex1_59_0
libboost_serialization1_58_0
libboost_serialization1_59_0
libboost_signals1_58_0
libboost_signals1_59_0
libboost_system1_58_0
libboost_system1_59_0
libboost_test1_58_0
libboost_test1_59_0
libboost_thread1_58_0
libboost_thread1_59_0
libboost_timer1_58_0
libboost_timer1_59_0
libboost_wave1_58_0
libboost_wave1_59_0
libcamel-1_2-54
libdialog12
libdns161
libgdict-1_0-9
libgpaste4
libhdf5-11
libhdf5_hl11
libicu55_1
libicu55_1-ledata
libicu56_1
libicu56_1-ledata
libisc148
libisl13
libixion-0_10-0
liblmdb-0_9_16
libmicrohttpd11
libminiupnpc15
libnis1
libntfs-3g86
liborcus-0_10-0
libpoppler55
libpoppler56
libpoppler57
libpoppler58
libpsl0
libsgutils2-1_41-2
libsuitesparseconfig-4_4_5
libvpx2
Olaf
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17 May
17 May
19:40
On Tue, May 03, Olaf Hering wrote:
On Mon, May 02, Olaf Hering wrote:
OBS will likely play pingpong with this, so please accept it manually.
https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/396407
Olaf
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Is there a way to add known-broken packages
manually?
If such list of orphaned packages gets created anyway, the following
list of packages from the past 9 months:
zypper packages --orphaned | awk '{print $5 }' | xargs rpm -q --qf
'%{DISTRIBUTION} %{NAME}\n' | grep -v debug | sort | awk '/ Factory / {
print $3 }'
20 May
20 May
08:36
On Tue, May 03, Olaf Hering wrote:
Thanks for extending the list.
boost-license1_58_0
Most or all of the boot packages lack the trailing "_0".
Since _product does not allow submit requests, here are the remaining ones:
i | @System | boost-license1_58_0 | 1.58.0-3.4 | noarch
i | @System | boost-license1_59_0 | 1.59.0-4.1 | noarch
i | @System | libboost_date_time1_58_0 | 1.58.0-3.4 | x86_64
i | @System | libboost_date_time1_59_0 | 1.59.0-4.1 | x86_64
i | @System | libboost_iostreams1_58_0 | 1.58.0-3.4 | x86_64
i | @System | libboost_iostreams1_59_0 | 1.59.0-4.1 | x86_64
i | @System | libboost_system1_58_0 | 1.58.0-3.4 | x86_64
i | @System | libboost_system1_59_0 | 1.59.0-4.1 | x86_64
i | @System | libboost_thread1_58_0 | 1.58.0-3.4 | x86_64
i | @System | libboost_thread1_59_0 | 1.59.0-4.1 | x86_64
i | @System | libdns160 | 9.10.2-9.1 | x86_64
i | @System | libisc148 | 9.10.2P4-13.1 | x86_64
i | @System | libpoppler52 | 0.33.0-1.3 | x86_64
i | @System | libpoppler56-debuginfo | 0.37.0-1.1 | x86_64
i | @System | libprocps4 | 3.3.10-3.2 | x86_64
i | @System | libsgutils2-1_40-2 | 1.40-1.2 | x86_64
i | @System | openldap2-client-debugsource | 2.4.42-18.2 | x86_64
Olaf
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22 May
22 May
20:20
On Fri, May 20, Olaf Hering wrote:
Since _product does not allow submit requests, here
are the remaining ones:
And from yet another system:
boost-license1_56_0
lib++dfb-1_7-6
libboost_system1_56_0
libboost_thread1_56_0
libdirectfb-1_7-6
libdns146
libicu54_1
libicu54_1-ledata
libimobiledevice5
libisc142
libpoppler47
libpoppler48
libpoppler49
libwebp5
Olaf
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23 May
07:02
On Sonntag, 22. Mai 2016, 21:20:37 wrote Olaf Hering:
On Fri, May 20, Olaf Hering wrote:
> Since _product does not allow submit requests, here are the remaining ones:
actually, it should work.
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08:37
New subject: [opensuse-packaging] Re: how to uninstall a removed package?
Adrian Schröter <adrian(a)suse.de> writes:
On Sonntag, 22. Mai 2016, 21:20:37 wrote Olaf Hering:
But factory-auto always rejects them.
Andreas.
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On Fri, May 20, Olaf Hering wrote:
> Since _product does not allow submit requests, here are the remaining ones:
actually, it should work.
09:32
New subject: [opensuse-packaging] Re: how to uninstall a removed package?
On Montag, 23. Mai 2016, 09:37:29 wrote Andreas Schwab:
Adrian Schröter <adrian(a)suse.de> writes:
Shoot them ... ;)
What is the given reason?
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On Sonntag, 22. Mai 2016, 21:20:37 wrote Olaf
Hering:
But factory-auto always rejects them. On Fri, May 20, Olaf Hering wrote:
> Since _product does not allow submit requests, here are the remaining ones:
actually, it should work.
09:34
New subject: [opensuse-packaging] Re: how to uninstall a removed package?
On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 10:32 +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote:
On Montag, 23. Mai 2016, 09:37:29 wrote Andreas
Schwab:
submission not coming from a devel project
and _product has no devel project... and I won't set one :)
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Adrian Schröter <adrian(a)suse.de> writes:
Shoot them ... ;)
What is the given reason? On Sonntag, 22. Mai 2016, 21:20:37 wrote Olaf
Hering:
But factory-auto always rejects them. On Fri, May 20, Olaf Hering wrote:
> Since _product does not allow submit requests, here are the
> remaining ones:
actually, it should work.
18:56
New subject: [opensuse-packaging] Re: how to uninstall a removed package?
On Mon, May 23, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:
and _product has no devel project... and I won't
set one :)
Fix factory-auto instead so that others can contribute directly instead
of bothering you via email.
Olaf
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10:01
On Mon, May 23, Adrian Schröter wrote:
On Sonntag, 22. Mai 2016, 21:20:37 wrote Olaf Hering:
It has no devel project, so some autoscript autorejects it automatically.
Olaf
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On Fri, May 20, Olaf Hering wrote:
> Since _product does not allow submit requests, here are the remaining ones:
actually, it should work. 
19 Apr
19 Apr
18:29
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar
<dimstar(a)opensuse.org> wrote:
On Mon, 2016-04-18 at 12:17 +0200, Olaf Hering wrote:
I haven't tested the exact case of of "ffmpeg-devel", but after DUPs
we're regularly seeing the problem of previous-openSUSE-release
packages still being installed, both in the supported one-version DUP
case and, unsurprisingly, the unsupported two-or-more-versions DUP
case (the latter often causes, unsurprisingly, all other kinds of
problems).
We're doing our DUPs with a (python-)fabric script; here is an
incomplete list of packages we have encountered. Some might be cause
be the mentioned two-version DUPs:
------------------------------ 8< ------------------------------
if release_after_dup == '13.1':
_rm_if_installed("libblocxx6") # removes "limal", too.
_rm_if_installed("libpng15-15")
_rm_if_installed("libserf-1-0")
_rm_if_installed("libyui-ncurses4")
_rm_if_installed("libyui4")
_rm_if_installed("limal") # should already be removed by this
point, see above.
_rm_if_installed("microcode_ctl")
_rm_if_installed("yast2-mouse")
_rm_if_installed("cpp47")
_rm_if_installed("gcc47")
_rm_if_installed("kernel-desktop")
_rm_if_installed("libarchive12")
_rm_if_installed("libcolord1")
_rm_if_installed("libicu49")
_rm_if_installed("libimobiledevice3")
_rm_if_installed("libxtables9")
_rm_if_installed("xtables-addons-kmp-default")
_rm_if_installed("cantarell-fonts")
_rm_if_installed("desktop-translations")
_rm_if_installed("ghostscript-x11")
_rm_if_installed("gxditview")
_rm_if_installed("libX11-xcb1")
_rm_if_installed("libXpm-tools")
_rm_if_installed("libjpeg62")
_rm_if_installed("libply-splash-core2")
_rm_if_installed("libproxy1-config-gnome3")
_rm_if_installed("ypbind")
_rm_if_installed("yp-tools")
_rm_if_installed("crda")
_rm_if_installed("nfs-client")
_rm_if_installed("nfsidmap")
_rm_if_installed("wireless-tools")
_rm_if_installed("wireless-regdb")
_rm_if_installed("xorg-x11-libs")
_rm_if_installed("bundle-lang-gnome-de")
_rm_if_installed("bundle-lang-gnome-en")
_rm_if_installed("bundle-lang-gnome-extras-de")
_rm_if_installed("bundle-lang-gnome-extras-en")
_rm_if_installed("gnome-icon-theme-extras")
_rm_if_installed("fbset")
_rm_if_installed("gsettings-backend-dconf")
_rm_if_installed("gtk2-immodule-inuktitut")
_rm_if_installed("gtk2-immodule-thai")
_rm_if_installed("gtk2-immodule-vietnamese")
_rm_if_installed("gtk3-immodule-amharic")
_rm_if_installed("gtk3-immodule-inuktitut")
_rm_if_installed("gtk3-immodule-thai")
_rm_if_installed("gtk3-immodule-vietnamese")
_rm_if_installed("nscd")
_rm_if_installed("libXaw7")
_rm_if_installed("libXmu6")
_rm_if_installed("ntfs-3g")
_rm_if_installed("libntfs-3g83")
_rm_if_installed("libyui-ncurses-pkg4")
if release_after_dup == '13.2':
_rm_if_installed("cryptsetup-mkinitrd")
_rm_if_installed("libgcrypt11")
_rm_if_installed("libicu51_2")
_rm_if_installed("libicu51_2-data")
_rm_if_installed("libjson0")
_rm_if_installed("libnl1")
_rm_if_installed("libprocps1")
_rm_if_installed("libyui-ncurses5")
_rm_if_installed("libyui5")
_rm_if_installed("ruby20")
_rm_if_installed("gtk3-theming-engine-adwaita")
_rm_if_installed("libplist1")
_rm_if_installed("libupower-glib1")
_rm_if_installed("libxkbcommon0")
_rm_if_installed("gnome-icon-theme")
_rm_if_installed("gtk2-metatheme-adwaita")
_rm_if_installed("gtk3-metatheme-adwaita")
_rm_if_installed("cantarell-fonts")
_rm_if_installed("gcr-viewer")
_rm_if_installed("gtk2-theming-engine-adwaita")
_rm_if_installed("metatheme-adwaita-common")
_rm_if_installed("yast2-x11")
if release_after_dup == 'Leap_42.1':
_rm_if_installed("branding-basedonopensuse")
_rm_if_installed("bundle-lang-common-ar")
_rm_if_installed("bundle-lang-common-en")
_rm_if_installed("cryptsetup-mkinitrd")
_rm_if_installed("dhcpcd")
_rm_if_installed("grub2-branding-basedonopensuse")
_rm_if_installed("libdirectfb-1_6-0")
_rm_if_installed("libgcrypt11")
_rm_if_installed("libicu51_2")
_rm_if_installed("libicu51_2-data")
_rm_if_installed("libimobiledevice4")
_rm_if_installed("libjson0")
_rm_if_installed("libmozjs185-1_0")
_rm_if_installed("libplist1")
_rm_if_installed("libprocps1")
_rm_if_installed("libpyglib-gi-2_0-python2-0")
_rm_if_installed("libudev0")
_rm_if_installed("libupower-glib1")
_rm_if_installed("libusbmuxd2") #redundant (removed with libplist1)
_rm_if_installed("libyui-ncurses5")
_rm_if_installed("libyui5") #redundant (libyui-ncurses5)
_rm_if_installed("libzmq3")
_rm_if_installed("pm-utils")
_rm_if_installed("ruby20")
_rm_if_installed("rubygem-fast_gettext") #redundant (ruby20)
_rm_if_installed("rubygem-ruby-dbus") #redundant (ruby20)
_rm_if_installed("suspend") #redundant (libgcrypt11)
------------------------------ >8 ------------------------------
Not all of these packages are caused by the problem the OP has; some
are just packages we do not need or want on our old servers, so we
remove them during DUP; however, as we do not track the reason for
removal, I sadly can't tell which is which. (I DUPed a server from
13.1 to Leap today and at least the following 13.1 packages were still
installed afterwards: branding-basedonopensuse bundle-lang-common-ar
cryptsetup-mkinitrd dhcpcd grub2-branding-basedonopensuse libicu51_2
libicu51_2-data ruby20 rubygem-fast_gettext rubygem-ruby-dbus.)
To detect such packages *after* a DUP, we do something like this since
around openSUSE 11.x (example after a DUP to Leap):
------------------------------ 8< ------------------------------
rpm -qa --qf '%{name}-%{version} %{distribution}\n' | grep -v
'openSUSE[ _:]Leap[ _:]42.1' | grep -v '(none)' | sort
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What are the options to uninstall a removed
package? […]
So I wonder how to run the 'zypper rm ffmpeg-devel' during 'zypper
dup'.
If ffmpeg-devel no longer exists in openSUSE:Factory, it is
automatically added as a weakremoves() in the _product and 'zypper dup'
takes care of removing it IFF it can be removed without breaking
dependencies of other stuff on the system.
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