On úterý 2. února 2016 11:39:40 CET Michal Kubecek wrote:
On Tuesday 02 of February 2016 10:41:06 Martin Pluskal wrote:
Anyway, if it either makes you feel better or will improve amount of packages in Factory, feel free to blame either me or my stupidity.
Let me quote from my initial e-mail (I know it was long and boring but it's second paragraph):
Disclaimer: the sole purpose of this e-mail is to present my view on the problem and to give responsible people something to think about. It is definitely not meant as a complaint about the particular case (which serves only as an example) or some kind of pointing fingers.
If it was about you or that one particular request, I would discuss it with you directly. OK, first let me clarify that my request consisted of several changes, some which I would consider beneficial, some were in my opinion very tiny improvements. I was actually expecting this sr to be declined and to discuss changes with you, and I was surprised when it was accepted after few hours. Given that despite your disclaimer, I am not aware of any similar issues that would occur to you, and given that you decided to use changes done by me as example, it is difficult for me not to step into debate, somehow feeling that I have been pulled into something different that I was hoping to accomplish in first place.
To simplify the problem to the core, what I find discouraging are two patterns:
1. People doing (trying to do) unnecessary changes from the "personal preferences" category in packages they are not actively maintaining (or intending to). 2. People eagerly accepting requests for packages they are not actively maintaining so that the real maintainer doesn't have chance to respond. (I can understand this if maintainer does not respond for, say, a week; but five hours on Sunday?)
When these two meet for one request, the result is really frustrating. I understand your frustration, but please also try to unedrstand my suprise and perhaps dissapointment when this topic appeared on mailing lists.
Michal Kubeček
Martin