On 22/03/2019 20:19, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On 3/22/19 9:41 AM, Simon Lees wrote:
Well I say this because I know of a number of packages are poorly assigned, unassigned or assigned to someone who doesn't have time to take care of them and its in everyone's best interest that packages are assigned to people who actually have the time to take care of them properly. Hopefully the more this gets passed up the management chain the sooner it will be fixed.
I don't know how often I need to repeat this, but: Those packages are mainly used by the Public Cloud Team and we need them to be working and installable for our daily routine. If someone else messes with them without understanding the ramifications, you are hurting us. I just kindly ask people outside the Public Cloud Team not to touch the packages without talking to us.
Unfortunately that's not how the openSUSE project works, we welcome contributions from anyone who feels interested enough in creating them, if the contributions break something or don't meet standards maintainers are more then welcome to reject the changes and give feedback as to what changes need to be made in order for the change to be acceptable. In openSUSE creating a submit request is a perfectly valid form of "talking to us"
If I thought this was an isolated issue I wouldn't have mentioned it. One of the next things on my todo list is to fix the fact that there are a significant number of packages inside Leap that are inherited from SLE that either have no maintainer or no maintainer inside SLE which essentially means there is no easy way to get maintenance updates into Leap.
Except that I don't have an issue with the maintenance at all. The reason the update to the Azure package stack was a bit stalled was because upstream made changes to the namespace packages which broke my packaging workflow so I had to made some changes while also spotting some bugs upstream and reporting them.
Yep and in this case the d:l:p maintainers should have given you reasonable time to add a comment in the SR explaining why you couldn't accept those changes at the moment.
Please don't automatically assume incompetence. And I'm certainly not overwhelmed by the load, I am doing way more than just maintaining these packages.
I'm not assuming incompetence, but you were complaining about the amount of emails and not being able to respond to them which tends to suggest a problem with workload.But I kinda understand this, I feel like I have a billion mail filters so that I only read the obs emails I care about and not the 10,000 a month that I don't. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org