On 19 June 2018 at 11:50, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 06/19/2018 11:41 AM, Simon Lees wrote:
Yes and above all what you are asked to do is follow the openSUSE guidelines when participating as a part of the openSUSE community, which is what every SUSE employee is doing and is expected to do when contributing there code to factory.
You do realize that there is a conflict here and we have to make a decision which we value higher? The fact that the package works correctly for our enterprise customers in the cloud or the possibility that a random Tumbleweed user is installing the package on their laptop only to realize it does not work at all, whether the service is running or not.
Strictly following the policy here does not gain anything but it will make the package for its target audience unusable.
Adrian
I think you should familiarise yourself with SUSE's "Factory First" policy which is the internal policy from which requirement that the SUSE Packaging Guidelines matches the openSUSE ones It's important that SUSE can maintain their packages in the long term without needing to worry about regular rebasing between their Enterprise distributions and the openSUSE communities offering There's no benefit making out-of-band hacks in the name of pleasing customers just to have all of those customers screwed when things break years in the future because that hack can't be rebased with where openSUSE ends up years from now. SUSE value that highly enough that any deviation from Factory First in SLE requires management buy-in to justify the additional work, manpower and risk, required to maintain a package outside of comforting environment offered by openSUSE hosting the package as part of Tumbleweed I think it would be better in the long term that you find a way to work better in the bounds set, I don't see any real justification for doing things differently or changing any policies here. This whole discussion is starting to read to me as "I don't like it so everything should change". And that's not a good way of working as part of a community. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org