Hi, Stephan! I know you had some points against creating a new pattern for KDE3, especially concerning the pattern's name. But the users seem to complain about that installing KDE3 without pattern is difficult: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/pre-release-beta/... Also it seems installing not fully complete set of packages may lead the users to believe that something is broken or incomplete (like in the linked case where the user thought kde3-ksnapshot was not included in Factory while actually it belongs to kdegraphics3). I have created a bugreport concerning the KDE3 pattern with a package list: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721640 I hope you can revisit the issue before the release date. The name of the pattern is not that important actually, I just hope it would not confuse the users. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org