On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Martin Schlander <martin.schlander@gmail.com> wrote:

Mandag den 21. marts 2011 01:57:43 skrev Bryen M. Yunashko:

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There's been a bit of noise in the past couple of months advocating a merge of both the artwork mailing list and artwork IRC channel along with the multimedia list into the marketing channel/list.

Many feel that we're too spread out and thus not hearing enough or being aware of what everyone is doing.  As such, that means it becomes harder to build momentum to grow our community.  Worse yet, when not merged properly, we create duplication of efforts.

However, before we do any merging, I have stated clearly to others that the ultimate decision rests with the artwork team.  I am definitely in favor of a merge, but would like to hear your thoughts in the  next few days about the pros and cons of merging together.

I vote nay for a merge with marketing ML.

I think there's not a very big overlap - if any - between -artwork and - marketing.

And last time I checked -marketing was very high traffic and a netiquette nightmare (top-posting, bad quoting etc.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

To answer the last point first, top-posting seems to be the default across many mail clients and is increasingly standard practice on many mailing lists, and certainly in some places it is de riguer. Likewise bad quoting. Varying netiquette is really quite irrelevant. The artwork list certainly is very quiet, and then when an art issue is raised, there's the problem of cross posting (and the breach of netiquette! :) ) when one wishes to involve both art and marketing members. I had initially felt the merge might be a good idea, but I have quite a few reservations. Volume could be a concern. Some of what is discussed in Marketing will be of very little interest to many of the Art team. The converse may occasionally be true, and having additional people all putting their two cents worth in as to the particularities of color and layout might not always be productive! Certainly we are all capable of filtering our email and making it manageable, but large volumes are still not good for many people. For someone purely interested in making artwork, who doesn't want to know about all the other stuff - writing and promotion and so on - that goes through Marketing, it could be a disincentive to participation. I'm very keen to see more interaction between marketing and artwork, in particular, for the art team to be closely involved in decision making early in the marketing process, as well as in the development of collaborative resources. One solution would be simply for Art team people to join the Marketing, so that they are on board for all creative discussions and are aware of what is happening, but to also retain the Art list for artwork-specific discussion (eg, discussing work in progress, where more focus is needed). cheers, Helen -- IRC: helen_au helen.south@opensuse.org helensouth.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org