While I agree with everyone of them, I must say yes we cannot do all the things we want to, maybe we lack the creativity or if we have the creativity we lack the skill and even if we have both we lack time. I am not defending anyone. So if you want to do something productive or have an idea just start it rather than waiting for others to do it for others. If you feel you lack the skills, try to do it still prepare a rough sketch / article and people will barge into it and improvise it but if you have an idea and do not begin NO ONE will be able to help anyone. So I will say DO BEGIN stuff. Anyone willing to put their hands up for this one, or for your own Geeko idea 1. Libre Office ( I am working on this one, I have an interview with Petr Mladek ) which I will compile and give as soon as possible. 2. GNOME 11.4 3. KDE on 11.4 4. LXDE on 11.4 5. XFCE on 11.4 6. Sneak Peeks Of 11.4 7. Hosting Server PHP MySQL APACHE on 11.4 8. Collecting Screenshots for 11.4, Installation, Desktop Screenshots etc (Kim ) 9. Wallpaper Ideas 10. Feature List 11. openSUSE For Developers 12. Presentation Update for 11.3 from Anything come on guys, Thanks a lot Kim for Volunteering for the screenshots. Regards Manu On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 21:31 -0500, Chuck Payne wrote:

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Helen South wrote:

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Giving ideas is cheap, but asking not to give ideas if you can't produce is counterproductive to brainstorming.

I see where Jos is coming from, but I also agree that brainstorming is a good thing. Many of us have loads of good ideas that we don't have the skills to bring to fruition. Often ideas put forward by one person will be picked up and developed by others.

So I think, keep the great ideas coming.

Having said that, we need a lot more "I'm doing this right now" and less "we should do this".

Ideas are 'a dime a dozen' - what matters is hard copy.

In novel writing we always say "you can't edit a blank page", and it's great to see so many people putting this into action - lots of great creativity going on right now!

cheers

Helen

(Rajko: my apologies for double send, hit wrong reply yet again....)

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I guess I am lost. I thought Jos was asking for ideas. Please forgive me, if I read it wrong.

While we are the subject of talk and no actions. Guys we have drop on distrowatch from Number 4 to 5. We were number four almost a year. It sad to me to see three debian like distro (Ubuntu, Mint, and Debian) in the top five.

I think it time to stop the talk, and walk the walk. We got a lot of work with LESS than a month a way for openSUSE 11.4. Let's getting back up to #4, let focus. I am not a cheif, by not means. But as Indian (Native America for those that speak PC), I am ready to hear the strategy team has to say, I hope we all fall in line to the beat of the drum that give us, wage battle to break pass number 4.

Sorry, but I been reading all these items lately. I am tried of reading, to me reading is darkness. I want to see light. I want to see people get a fire in them. I want to see them push to the light.

Pup

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On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Helen South wrote:

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I guess I am lost. I thought Jos was asking for ideas. Please forgive me, if I read it wrong.

Yes he is; but ideas that people want to 'own' and act upon - and I think he means really with the context of that specific Studio discussion, as it needs to be focused and actionable. So I fear we've taken the thread rather off topic there.

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I think it time to stop the talk, and walk the walk. We got a lot of work with LESS than a month a way for openSUSE 11.4.

Pup

I think we're heading in the right direction, Chuck. There were a lot of reasons for that drop in rank I think, none of which I'm going to state here (we all have our ideas on that!) but there is definitely a feeling of excitement in the air right now. Check out the beautiful artwork that is going on as well as lots of creative ideas people are coming up with.

The problem is we have few people doing things. We have a lot people talking. People that were assign task, not working on the task they were asked to do. Leaving others to do it by themselves. Talking about Identity, should be one or the other. Too many people are trying to set themselves up at managers. I think at the next marketing meeting we need to lay out a strong direct then move from there. I know that I come off to many as the grumpy ole' man, but I am sorry, we need to let those that are projects lead. I only saying this because I been sitting on the edge for the last couple of weeks, we are about to fall into the abssy. We need to get focus.

I'm really looking forward to the Hackfest, I think it's going to be a fantastic opportunity to really pull all these ideas together and create a lot of good stuff.

All of which is TOTALLY off topic from Jos's original email so.... back on topic ....

IDEAS FOR SUSE STUDIO MAILING LIST

I'm a little bit clueless about how newsletters actually happen but I'd be happy to contribute with writing something if someone gives me a specific task. For example, "Helen can you write me 500 words about image editors on openSUSE, by next friday" or "Helen, can you interview Jane UberDev about her latest Bretzn plugin"... I can do that.

cheers

Helen

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