First of all the title is a bit ironic. Well I started thinking about it after what I read on a previous marketing list post with subject "Wrong marketing OBS". So now I would like to discuss the parts of openSUSE project because I feel a bit confused about it and I believe I am not the only one. I mean as I know parts of the openSUSE project are the SUSE Studio, the openSUSE distribution, openSUSE LI-F-E and the OBS. -Is there something else?( I don't know if we can include Yast in all this) -When you make a search for openSUSE project in our wiki in order to find out what the openSUSE Project is you get that http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Project , where you read: The openSUSE project is a worldwide effort that promotes the use of Linux everywhere. openSUSE creates one of the world's best Linux distributions, working together in an open, transparent and friendly manner as part of the worldwide Free and Open Source Software community. Nowhere you read about the other parts of the project than the distribution,at list that is what I think except if I'm missing something and if I do is it enough? I recommend to talk about what should we find in an openSUSE project booth other than information about the distribution and organize teams to create that kind of information(at least for the parts we don't have) and material. I see people making great work in a variety of things around the openSUSE project (OBS,LI-F-E and more) but because of lack of promotion it gets behind and all we promote is the distribution. Well we are not Ubuntu(it is just an example due to its popularity, I don't mean anything else) and our goal should not be to become because I believe we are something different and better and the distribution is and should be a part of the whole idea around our project. Let us don't leave distribution choke the Project. Kostas "Warlordfff" Koudaras -- http://opensuse.gr http://amb.opensuse.gr http://warlordfff.tk me I am not me ------- Time travel is possible, you just need to know the right aliens I gave exams for God , but I failed in miracles -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org