[opensuse-marketing] openSUSE distribution Versus the openSUSE project
First of all the title is a bit ironic. Well I started thinking about it after what I read on a previous marketing list post with subject "Wrong marketing OBS". So now I would like to discuss the parts of openSUSE project because I feel a bit confused about it and I believe I am not the only one. I mean as I know parts of the openSUSE project are the SUSE Studio, the openSUSE distribution, openSUSE LI-F-E and the OBS. -Is there something else?( I don't know if we can include Yast in all this) -When you make a search for openSUSE project in our wiki in order to find out what the openSUSE Project is you get that http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Project , where you read: The openSUSE project is a worldwide effort that promotes the use of Linux everywhere. openSUSE creates one of the world's best Linux distributions, working together in an open, transparent and friendly manner as part of the worldwide Free and Open Source Software community. Nowhere you read about the other parts of the project than the distribution,at list that is what I think except if I'm missing something and if I do is it enough? I recommend to talk about what should we find in an openSUSE project booth other than information about the distribution and organize teams to create that kind of information(at least for the parts we don't have) and material. I see people making great work in a variety of things around the openSUSE project (OBS,LI-F-E and more) but because of lack of promotion it gets behind and all we promote is the distribution. Well we are not Ubuntu(it is just an example due to its popularity, I don't mean anything else) and our goal should not be to become because I believe we are something different and better and the distribution is and should be a part of the whole idea around our project. Let us don't leave distribution choke the Project. Kostas "Warlordfff" Koudaras -- http://opensuse.gr http://amb.opensuse.gr http://warlordfff.tk me I am not me ------- Time travel is possible, you just need to know the right aliens I gave exams for God , but I failed in miracles -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 09 November 2010 05:15:17 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
First of all the title is a bit ironic. Well I started thinking about it after what I read on a previous marketing list post with subject "Wrong marketing OBS". So now I would like to discuss the parts of openSUSE project because I feel a bit confused about it and I believe I am not the only one. I mean as I know parts of the openSUSE project are the SUSE Studio, the openSUSE distribution, openSUSE LI-F-E and the OBS. -Is there something else?( I don't know if we can include Yast in all this)
I normally speak about these pillars: * distribution * community * communication * tools Btw. we have no formal definition what an openSUSE sub-project is ;)
-When you make a search for openSUSE project in our wiki in order to find out what the openSUSE Project is you get that http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Project , where you read: The openSUSE project is a worldwide effort that promotes the use of Linux everywhere. openSUSE creates one of the world's best Linux distributions, working together in an open, transparent and friendly manner as part of the worldwide Free and Open Source Software community. Nowhere you read about the other parts of the project than the distribution,at list that is what I think except if I'm missing something and if I do is it enough?
I recommend to talk about what should we find in an openSUSE project booth other than information about the distribution and organize teams to create that kind of information(at least for the parts we don't have) and material.
good idea. So, what do others would add for a large booth: First: * distribution * OBS (main part of tools) and SUSE Studio * community * communication Second - lower prio: * YaST * libzypp/zypper * openSUSE Education (LI-F-E) * openSUSE Medical
I see people making great work in a variety of things around the openSUSE project (OBS,LI-F-E and more) but because of lack of promotion it gets behind and all we promote is the distribution. Well we are not Ubuntu(it is just an example due to its popularity, I don't mean anything else) and our goal should not be to become because I believe we are something different and better and the distribution is and should be a part of the whole idea around our project. Let us don't leave distribution choke the Project.
Will you collect the responses and take care to present this on the wiki, please? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
2010/11/9 Andreas Jaeger
On Tuesday 09 November 2010 05:15:17 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
First of all the title is a bit ironic. Well I started thinking about it after what I read on a previous marketing list post with subject "Wrong marketing OBS". So now I would like to discuss the parts of openSUSE project because I feel a bit confused about it and I believe I am not the only one. I mean as I know parts of the openSUSE project are the SUSE Studio, the openSUSE distribution, openSUSE LI-F-E and the OBS. -Is there something else?( I don't know if we can include Yast in all this)
I normally speak about these pillars: * distribution * community * communication * tools
Btw. we have no formal definition what an openSUSE sub-project is ;)
-When you make a search for openSUSE project in our wiki in order to find out what the openSUSE Project is you get that http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Project , where you read: The openSUSE project is a worldwide effort that promotes the use of Linux everywhere. openSUSE creates one of the world's best Linux distributions, working together in an open, transparent and friendly manner as part of the worldwide Free and Open Source Software community. Nowhere you read about the other parts of the project than the distribution,at list that is what I think except if I'm missing something and if I do is it enough?
I recommend to talk about what should we find in an openSUSE project booth other than information about the distribution and organize teams to create that kind of information(at least for the parts we don't have) and material.
good idea. So, what do others would add for a large booth: First: * distribution * OBS (main part of tools) and SUSE Studio * community * communication
Second - lower prio: * YaST * libzypp/zypper * openSUSE Education (LI-F-E) * openSUSE Medical
ok,but you still haven't told me what is the available promotional material about all this.
I see people making great work in a variety of things around the openSUSE project (OBS,LI-F-E and more) but because of lack of promotion it gets behind and all we promote is the distribution. Well we are not Ubuntu(it is just an example due to its popularity, I don't mean anything else) and our goal should not be to become because I believe we are something different and better and the distribution is and should be a part of the whole idea around our project. Let us don't leave distribution choke the Project.
Will you collect the responses and take care to present this on the wiki, please?
Well I could try,so far I've never made a wiki page(although I translated a few).At the end of the discussion I'll write the article.
Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
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On Tuesday 09 November 2010 17:57:32 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
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First: * distribution * OBS (main part of tools) and SUSE Studio * community * communication
Second - lower prio: * YaST * libzypp/zypper * openSUSE Education (LI-F-E) * openSUSE Medical
ok,but you still haven't told me what is the available promotional material about all this.
Many of that material needs to be created ;-( Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Hi, On Wednesday 10 November 2010 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Tuesday 09 November 2010 17:57:32 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
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First: * distribution * OBS (main part of tools) and SUSE Studio * community * communication
Second - lower prio: * YaST * libzypp/zypper * openSUSE Education (LI-F-E) * openSUSE Medical
ok,but you still haven't told me what is the available promotional material about all this.
Many of that material needs to be created ;-(
At least for SUSE Studio there _is_ some documentation[1] -- if it is suffice for marketing it's a different questions. :) [1] http://www.novell.com/documentation/suse_studio/ -- Gruß/Regards, Thomas Schraitle ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH (o< Documentation Specialist Maxfeldstrasse 5 /\\ 90409 Nuernberg, Germany _\_v http://en.opensuse.org/Documentation_Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
El Miércoles, 10 de Noviembre de 2010 10:25:30 Thomas Schraitle escribió: [...]
At least for SUSE Studio there _is_ some documentation[1] -- if it is suffice for marketing it's a different questions. :)
Perhaps it's something to be added to doc.o.o? ;) BTW, I can't find any link on http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:SUSE_Studio to http://www.novell.com/documentation/suse_studio/ Thanks for documenting it! Greetings, -- Javier Llorente
Hi Javier, On Thursday 11 November 2010 Javier Llorente wrote:
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Perhaps it's something to be added to doc.o.o? ;)
That was the plan, yes. :)
BTW, I can't find any link on http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:SUSE_Studio to http://www.novell.com/documentation/suse_studio/
I've added a new section in the FAQ: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:SUSE_Studio_Faq -- Gruß/Regards, Thomas Schraitle ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH (o< Documentation Specialist Maxfeldstrasse 5 /\\ 90409 Nuernberg, Germany _\_v http://en.opensuse.org/Documentation_Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch 10 November 2010, 10:15:05 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Tuesday 09 November 2010 17:57:32 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
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First: * distribution * OBS (main part of tools) and SUSE Studio * community * communication
Second - lower prio: * YaST * libzypp/zypper * openSUSE Education (LI-F-E) * openSUSE Medical
ok,but you still haven't told me what is the available promotional material about all this.
Many of that material needs to be created ;-(
noone is interested to work on the points for a generelly CI for this stuff, so without I can create some stuff but it looks later all not uniformed and not like openSUSE ;) br gnokii
Andreas
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Am Mittwoch 10 November 2010, 10:15:05 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Tuesday 09 November 2010 17:57:32 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
[...]
First: * distribution * OBS (main part of tools) and SUSE Studio * community * communication
Second - lower prio: * YaST * libzypp/zypper * openSUSE Education (LI-F-E) * openSUSE Medical
ok,but you still haven't told me what is the available promotional material about all this.
Many of that material needs to be created ;-(
so look AJ its easy to create for me such things, its a fast shoot http://karl-tux-stadt.de/tmp/obs.png That is done in the art of jimmacs old posters from 11.0 that u can find in artwork repo and it uses the colors from his old palette and I choosed the color from ur webpage because there is/was "create it" always orange. I can create in hours flyer or whatever u want with that ;) But is that ok to use this style? br gnokii
Andreas
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On Wednesday 10 November 2010 19:26:24 S.Kemter wrote:
Am Mittwoch 10 November 2010, 10:15:05 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Tuesday 09 November 2010 17:57:32 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
[...]
First: * distribution * OBS (main part of tools) and SUSE Studio * community * communication
Second - lower prio: * YaST * libzypp/zypper * openSUSE Education (LI-F-E) * openSUSE Medical
ok,but you still haven't told me what is the available promotional material about all this.
Many of that material needs to be created ;-(
so look AJ its easy to create for me such things, its a fast shoot
http://karl-tux-stadt.de/tmp/obs.png
That is done in the art of jimmacs old posters from 11.0 that u can find in artwork repo and it uses the colors from his old palette and I choosed the color from ur webpage because there is/was "create it" always orange.
I can create in hours flyer or whatever u want with that ;) But is that ok to use this style?
It's fine with me... Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
so look AJ its easy to create for me such things, its a fast shoot
http://karl-tux-stadt.de/tmp/obs.png
That is done in the art of jimmacs old posters from 11.0 that u can find in artwork repo and it uses the colors from his old palette and I choosed the color from ur webpage because there is/was "create it" always orange.
I can create in hours flyer or whatever u want with that ;) But is that ok to use this style?
br gnokii
I don't know how this fits into the guidelines for artwork/branding in terms of current style, so cannot comment on that. But I LOVE this poster - so bright and clear, really nice layout and the graphic communicates the concept so well. It's eyecatching and works well to sell the idea of packaging across distros perfectly. Good stuff!!! What about matching banners and small graphics that people can use in web pages? I notice that often members use SUSE graphics in place of advertisements on their personal web pages. Perhaps some other places might be convinced to run it as an advertisement just to be nice :) Anyways, nice work Gnokii, you rock! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Am Freitag 12 November 2010, 06:19:27 schrieb Helen:
so look AJ its easy to create for me such things, its a fast shoot
http://karl-tux-stadt.de/tmp/obs.png
That is done in the art of jimmacs old posters from 11.0 that u can find in artwork repo and it uses the colors from his old palette and I choosed the color from ur webpage because there is/was "create it" always orange.
I can create in hours flyer or whatever u want with that ;) But is that ok to use this style?
br gnokii
I don't know how this fits into the guidelines for artwork/branding in terms of current style, so cannot comment on that.
The guidelines we have at the moment it fixes exactly, I used the colors from the palette and its really only a new poster in the style of jimmacs old ones. There isnt really one style and thats the problem. At moment I used jimmacs poster designs, whenever a ambassador came to me and asked for banner and such stuff.
But I LOVE this poster - so bright and clear, really nice layout and the graphic communicates the concept so well. It's eyecatching and works well to sell the idea of packaging across distros perfectly. Good stuff!!!
What about matching banners and small graphics that people can use in web pages?
When I have done the whole series, there exists some more of the "poster" right now as mockup 5 and I have some more in my head. So when they are all done, I can begin to create all the other stuff
I notice that often members use SUSE graphics in place of advertisements on their personal web pages. Perhaps some other places might be convinced to run it as an advertisement just to be nice :)
Anyways, nice work Gnokii, you rock!
thx br gnokii -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Yes it look´s good, but I think YaST and Zypper are "First" projects like the distribution and the OBS and SUSE Studio. What´s a distribution without an good packet management or a good config-tool? Regards, kdl -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Andreas Jaeger Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 5:31 PM To: opensuse-marketing@opensuse.org Cc: Kostas Koudaras Subject: Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE distribution Versus the openSUSE project On Tuesday 09 November 2010 05:15:17 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
First of all the title is a bit ironic. Well I started thinking about it after what I read on a previous marketing list post with subject "Wrong marketing OBS". So now I would like to discuss the parts of openSUSE project because I feel a bit confused about it and I believe I am not the only one. I mean as I know parts of the openSUSE project are the SUSE Studio, the openSUSE distribution, openSUSE LI-F-E and the OBS. -Is there something else?( I don't know if we can include Yast in all this)
I normally speak about these pillars: * distribution * community * communication * tools Btw. we have no formal definition what an openSUSE sub-project is ;)
-When you make a search for openSUSE project in our wiki in order to find out what the openSUSE Project is you get that http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Project , where you read: The openSUSE project is a worldwide effort that promotes the use of Linux everywhere. openSUSE creates one of the world's best Linux distributions, working together in an open, transparent and friendly manner as part of the worldwide Free and Open Source Software community. Nowhere you read about the other parts of the project than the distribution,at list that is what I think except if I'm missing something and if I do is it enough?
I recommend to talk about what should we find in an openSUSE project booth other than information about the distribution and organize teams to create that kind of information(at least for the parts we don't have) and material.
good idea. So, what do others would add for a large booth: First: * distribution * OBS (main part of tools) and SUSE Studio * community * communication Second - lower prio: * YaST * libzypp/zypper * openSUSE Education (LI-F-E) * openSUSE Medical
I see people making great work in a variety of things around the openSUSE project (OBS,LI-F-E and more) but because of lack of promotion it gets behind and all we promote is the distribution. Well we are not Ubuntu(it is just an example due to its popularity, I don't mean anything else) and our goal should not be to become because I believe we are something different and better and the distribution is and should be a part of the whole idea around our project. Let us don't leave distribution choke the Project.
Will you collect the responses and take care to present this on the wiki, please? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
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