I understand now...thank you...yeah taking things personally can be detrimental to discussions. However, the Free Media Persons programme, does other people think it is a good idea? I really do not mind buying some blank DVDs and stick them with "legit" CD stickers and pass them on to anyone who are interested. Perhaps having a link on the main openSUSE (I spell it correct for the 1st time yay!) Portal for those interested in getting some in their areas? By some, I meant maybe like 20 or 30 DVDs, not 100 as it will be costly then. What does everyone think? Eric On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:55 AM, S.Kemter <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de> wrote:
Eric,
It's true that both threads led to a reduction in civility and camaraderie and its sad. It is not, however, a reflection of what you can/cannot discuss. ADM was free to bring up the issue of GNU/Linux versus Linux, as it is a concern that *some* people have. But the rhetoric on his side as well as by responders escalated to the point of thread-destruction.
It should be a lesson to all of us to 1) turn the other cheek when anyone tries to instigate and 2) not allow threads to get hijacked. That's where the problem came here and why some people said enough already. It was not a lack of contribution or thereof, but rather a lack of productivity.
As for your question specificially about what defines contribution, it boils down basically to two things: 1) Contribute to the quality of the Project and 2) You contribute by promoting the project. That's basically it.
Now, as for applying for openSUSE Membership, we, the openSUSE Board, evaluate on a case-by-case basis to verify that some level of significant contribution has been made in the past. That means we look for bug reports you may have filed, wiki edits, blogs promoting openSUSE, participation in mailing lists, translations, etc.
Membership, not to be confused with Ambassadorship, is really the only area at this point in time where we measure a person's contribution to the project. And membership is *only* open to those who have made contributions, not to people who apply saying "I want to join and contribute."
So basically, keep doing what you feel is right to promote openSUSE as an Ambassador and make sure we all know about it.
And thank you for volunteering to be an Ambassador!
@Bryen
I think its not the Gnu discussion invented from ADM.
Eric means the "Free Media Persons".
@Eric
I say it again, I have no problem with the idea. I mean its good but the way he started is thats the problem. He told us his idea and two minutes later, he told as the name of a new program and his page. As I said the page has only an table there is no text for explanation for what it is. He told me its an wiki and I can make it better.
I had no problem when he had that put on his own site in the wiki and said there from me can get interesting user medias. But an new page with an very ugly name? Linked from on of the important sites in the wiki with "to be an Free Media Person" under ways to help suse?
Other people should make better his creation without understanding his idea? Why we must agree this "program" without an discussion how its the best way to do it? Why are people they said it to him "dictators".
The problem of ADM is he think all its personally and he is going amok. That problem he has in the fedora project too. Read the mailinglist archives.
For the question what can an Ambassador do and was not. Its simple when you not sure ask on this list. But why not asking always ;) When you ask always here, then you get meanings and ideas to make your idea better maybe there is on there like your idea and help you.
Thats the way floss development always has worked, software created by the people, with the people and for the people
BR gnokii
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