On Friday 20 August 2010 19:31:57 Nelson Marques wrote:
I'm going to share an idea and would love to work a bit on this.
If there is possibility of me, or anyone else, or even me and other volunteer to give them a small 10 hour crash course on how to jump into openSUSE and explore possibilities with a group of students... Would anyone be interested in developing the contents for a 10 hour event with students ?
Hmmm. It would be interesting. I've seen a few pretty good hackers come into FOSS at that age. They do need a lot of support, but if they have what it takes - they can make a big difference.
Has someone done this before or has anything we can use? Anyone can share some experiences on this field ?
I have given talks to highschool students a few times, but that was rather generic. We've did an openSUSE install at some point and played with a few things - but I must say the majority (even while those were volunteers) weren't too enthousiastic - few were, though.
Anyway. While my experience is limited, I am willing to help with some stuff. In general, I'd recommend to use as much existing material as possible - so I hope someone else on this list knows of anything.
There surely must be generic 'what is FOSS' talks aimed at kids this age. Finding those and adapting them would make for a fine start. The openSUSE values and community we can explain.
The biggest challenge would be to keep it interesting for the kids, sounds like a fun thing to try and do - maybe the ppl working on edu are interested to help out. When you need writers, don't forget to ask on their mailinlist!
Would you mind that I would make this happen around openSUSE ?
Of course not...
Thinking on the future, since it has been developed it should also be available for anyone else who wants to try it out or who conducts a similar event. In this case and also using something openSUSE has done in the past, we could probably use LimeSurvey to build the questionaire and then present the results to the community.
This results may be used later to improve.
Sounds good. Also, it's future, let's ignore what mom said when we were young and act before we think ;-)
What would be the steps that one would take inside the openSUSE community to prepare a crash program to present to 'new users' on openSUSE.
I might be forgetting things that are important, but this is pretty much a mockup of a potential 'service plan'.
Sounds good. Besides, once you're creating it you'll change it anyway ;-)
Where physically can we develop such document and such concept so that we can provide it to anyone who wants to make small field initiatives.
I would do the following: Set up an etherpad (piratepad) with the index you just wrote, and put other piratepad addresses with each chaptor behind the index. (create those, obviously, as well).
Then just announce it. Ask ppl to first find content on the web for each of those. Is there an installation guide on installing openSUSE? Trow in the link in that piratepad. Once we have a few, we can use the content to write for the course.
If this is developed correctly we can have a good thing here. For example Fedora does this on a more specific conditions, but their enrollment with the Allegeny University has been pretty much a success, and a lot of stuff was created by their students to Fedora 13 in terms of contents. This is not a copy-cat initiative though. This should be a part of a possible 'Ambassador cook book'.
Yep. Besides, I don't mind copying, what's wrong with that? Ain't it under a free license? Is't sharing and copying how humanity has progressed from the stoneage to now? ;-)
IOW let's copy as much content from them as we can, saves us time. Once we've made it into a good course, maybe they'll be interested to borrow things back from us... Good for us, good for them. Don't you love Free Software?
This is just a concept which I am ready to help develop and document for later application. I can also run a test pilot on the field on the local high school or through the City Hall which far more resources.
Sounds great. You try and manage this, keep an eye on progress. That means (as I'm sure you're well aware off): be a stubborn idiot. Push people, keep talking about this, keep asking for help until we're all so annoyed we help you write it.
Being stubbornly focussed on getting something done is the only bad habbit we allow in openSUSE :D (note that also stubborn drinking, dancing or karaoke during confrences is allowed. However, being stubbornly annoying about something YOU don't want to work on is frowned upon - as is putting down others on what they do, no matter how useless you think it is. So if anyone wants to make geeko-powered deadly robots to foce the world to use openSUSE, I won't stop you)
As always, comments, suggestions and everything else is welcome.
First of all, that is one heck of a plan. Elaborate and well thought out.
As I wrote, stop thinking after you've got two more replys and just get going with the etherpads so we can get to work ;-)
PS something tells me I responded with too many to an email which was way to long in the first place. I hereby apologize to anyone who made it through this huge mail :(